Steam Account Surviorship

[Brightshadow]

On the event of my death, what happens to my Steam account and its contents? Can my kin claim ownership? Is it part of my estate and therefore taxable?

[crunchyfrog]

Start_Running の投稿を引用：

Basically the more you involve Steam and Valve in the matter and work with them the better it goes for everyone. IEven if you will it, if Valve is unnotified it is in their ball whether to suspend the account permamnently once they discover that someone else is using it..

Very true, however as I pointed out earlier - the advice on a subject such as this needs to be EXACT. There's enough idiotic faux-legal myths that go round here (the "you only get one chance of a refund" nonsense STILL goes around).

The point remains that you CAN try, you always have the right. You DO NOT have automatic right, so if they say no, you CANNOT do anything about it.

Again, all due to the licencing agreement.

[Muppet among Puppets]

So, to make some of your thoughts obvious:
If someone dies, you personally feel ordered to erase and break everything he leaves,
to not break any tos? Even if its not in the tos?
Even as steam stated its not the case?

Really?

If you read about heritage, you may know that you can even inherit debts. So you can inherit a license.
Its not just taking things. They move over to you.

I really dont know why some people are eager to wave away basic rights.

[crunchyfrog]

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

So, to make some of your thoughts obvious:
If someone dies, you personally feel ordered to erase and break everything he leaves,
to not break any tos? Even if its not in the tos?
Even as steam stated its not the case?

Really?

If you read about heritage, you may know that you can even inherit depth. So you can inherit a license.
Its not just taking things. They move over to you.

I really dont know why some people are eager to wave away basic rights.

You remember that I'm a legal adivsor in consumer rights and disabled law, don't you?

I get this from time to time (sadly) with accounts of ALL stripes, but I can tell you quite categorically you HAVE NO AUTOMATIC RIGHT AT ALL to transfer licencese or policies. They are created with the individual and their circumstances pertaining.

THat's just how it is - as already stated, you ALWAYS can try to work it out, if you have reason to, but as I said before, there is NO GOOD REASON a stewarship can do much for the account other than close it.

If the steward wishes to take over the account, then that ISN'T stewardship.

Hey, I wish it were otherwise - you know my stances on consumer law, but I'm not going to lie to prop up my own beliefs. Facts are facts.

[crunchyfrog]

In short, you dont' HAVE any basic right in this regard that you somehow think you have.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Black Blade の投稿を引用：

You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve.

eram の投稿を引用：

If the steam account is willed to you you can change ownership. Steam support/VALVe have mentioned several times in the past they wouldn't block this change of ownership.

And these wordings combined make sense.

[Start_Running]

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

Black Blade の投稿を引用：

You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve.

eram の投稿を引用：

If the steam account is willed to you you can change ownership. Steam support/VALVe have mentioned several times in the past they wouldn't block this change of ownership.

And these wordings combined make sense.

It does if you understand the legal diufference of the two scenarios.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Start_Running の投稿を引用：

It does if you understand the legal diufference of the two scenarios.

Which are?

[Start_Running]

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

Start_Running の投稿を引用：

It does if you understand the legal diufference of the two scenarios.

Which are?

You really don't see it? Really? You can honestly say you can't spot the difference between those two scenarios?


Okay let me spell it out.
This scenario:

You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve.

involves a third party gaining access to the usage of the account, its assets and STeams services, without implicitly or explicitloy agree to be bound by the SSA

In This scenario:

If the steam account is willed to you you can change ownership. Steam support/VALVe have mentioned several times in the past they wouldn't block this change of ownership.

The third party must, in accepting the bequeathment (yes just because something is given to you in a will doesn't mean youhave to accept it. You can decline it), is also required to explicitly acceot the terms of the SSA. Just like if some one leaves you a house in a will and you accepot you also accept any property tax associated with it, as well as responsibilty and liability for its upkeep. If you inherit a million dollars and youa ccept you also accept any taxes on that.

So there you have it.

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[Muppet among Puppets]

Start_Running の投稿を引用：

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

Which are?

You really don't see it? Really? You can honestly say you can't spot the difference between those two scenarios?


Okay let me spell it out.

Well, this topic is about heritage. I am not sure if you see it.
And you were wrong.
Because
a) There is no rule against it
and
b) Steam said the opposite of what you think this is all about.

Dont know why you think you should need to spell something out for me.

[Black Blade]

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

Black Blade の投稿を引用：

You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve.

eram の投稿を引用：

If the steam account is willed to you you can change ownership. Steam support/VALVe have mentioned several times in the past they wouldn't block this change of ownership.

And these wordings combined make sense.

Well it depends i think if we can find a source that will be said by Valve and can be shown as proof that they allow it for all cases, and that cases were not one time things

[The Giving One]

As some have said here and it is a good point, the SSA allows for some leeway such as...

1. REGISTRATION AS A SUBSCRIBER; APPLICATION OF TERMS TO YOU; YOUR ACCOUNT

When you complete Steam’s registration process, you create a Steam account ("Account"). Your Account may also include billing information you provide to Valve for the purchase of Subscriptions. You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve.


So, if a person uses Steam support or contacts Valve by some other means, and provides proof that the original user did in fact legally will the account to another upon death, then that seems logical, and special permission could be given in that case, I would say.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Black Blade の投稿を引用：

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

And these wordings combined make sense.

Well it depends i think if we can find a source that will be said by Valve and can be shown as proof that they allow it for all cases, and that cases were not one time things :D:

Its not mentioned.
Transfer, buying, selling, sharing, renting, ....... but not heritage.

[Black Blade]

Muppet among Puppets の投稿を引用：

Its not mentioned.
Transfer, buying, selling, sharing, renting, ....... but not heritage.

well what is transferring if not that?

[Start_Running]

The Giving One の投稿を引用：

As some have said here and it is a good point, the SSA allows for some leeway such as...

1. REGISTRATION AS A SUBSCRIBER; APPLICATION OF TERMS TO YOU; YOUR ACCOUNT

When you complete Steam’s registration process, you create a Steam account ("Account"). Your Account may also include billing information you provide to Valve for the purchase of Subscriptions. You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve.


So, if a person uses Steam support or contacts Valve by some other means, and provides proof that the original user did in fact legally will the account to another upon death, then that seems logical, and special permission could be given in that case, I would say.

Proof of death of the original owner in the form of a death certificate. Proof of bequeathment in the form of a legally notorized will. and proof of your own identity as the person to whom the will mentions. Birth certificate and social security.

Then you will have to explicitly state you agree with the terms and conditions of the SSA as agreed to by the former owner. Thusly this would not count as a new contract but rather a continueation.