But wy first key?

[Sylvek]

Hey. I need some good tips how to get my old account back.
You know like many people long time ago I had some 2-3 steam accounts just for CS and stuff like that. But after vac i just changed to the second acc because it was easier for me. I started playing there. Bought games, used many cd keys, gift cards. I paid and sold yhings on marketplace just normal stuff. I used mostly paysafe to buy things bcs my young age. Changed mail to my main at the time and used it as god Gabe intended. But some day just bcs I am stupid idiot my acc got stolen. It was in 2018 and it was after 3-4 years of usage. I didn't remember my first mail or an first cd key used. None of that crap. But now after 2 years i found so much evidence to prove that I am an owner.
More than 40 screens of trades, buyomg games, cd keys. I found old email in like 6 years of compiled fb messages (got to search through 4 conversation so more like 18 years). But still I can't get my fingers on my first cdkey. And I am looking like crazy but I think it's pointless. It might be from dead cd key resell/random/other ♥♥♥♥ website, and it's just beyond my reach. Are there any other evidences that might go through that stupid steam support team? Is it really need to be that messed up? Any official steam site just says that it need's to be any key. Just with screen or photo to prove it. Only steam support asks for first one. Please someone help me. I just want to destroy something after my third closed dispute.
Why this needs to be first cd key. I was a fcking 13 year old kid when i started to use it. Why I would bother to remember that stuff?

[mimizukari]

help.steampowered.com

provide all the info you can. if you don't have enough info to prove ownership such as CD keys, then you may be unable to recover it.

[Wolf Knight]

they want stuff that only YOU would know. either provide what they ask for or you will not be able to get the account back.

[MalikQayum]

It made sense in the beginning when people lost their accounts and it obviously became a staple in how to get your account back. little did valve know, that they wouldn't come up with something better and just assumed people would sit for 16 + years on the first cd key they ever activated.

it makes total sense that we need to hold on to these keys until we either pass away or we stop using steam.

[Sylvek]

Dude even I he owner didn't know most of this stuff. And I am most likely sure that 70% of peaople with more than 15 games don't remember their first cdkey. I have more than 30 cdkeys that i sent them over this 2 years and none of them was first one. And like. Even something from 5-7 months apart from makeing the acc just for Cs:Go wasn't good. I got keys with photo evidence, screenshots from like 6 different websites and screens with my payments to valve. Like. With this much stuff how can i get closed frome steam support?

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tg

[mimizukari]

Escrito originalmente por Yikes:

Dude even I he owner didn't know most of this stuff. And I am most likely sure that 70% of peaople with more than 15 games don't remember their first cdkey. I have more than 30 cdkeys that i sent them over this 2 years and none of them was first one. And like. Even something from 5-7 months apart from makeing the acc just for Cs:Go wasn't good. I got keys with photo evidence, screenshots from like 6 different websites and screens with my payments to valve. Like. With this much stuff how can i get closed frome steam support?

10 of your non-first keys usually. 6 isn't enough for account reclamation.

[wuddih]

if they ask for such old stuff, there are usually multiple claims on the account or you never bought anything. they are normally fine with some banking transactions that are just a bit older.

[Zekiran]

Let's be perfectly clear here: you DID actually create the original accounts, all of them, correct?

You did NOT purchase or 'inherit' them or get them 'from a friend' in ANY WAY, right?

[crunchyfrog]

OP, think of it this way - empathy.

Put yourself in Valve's situation.

Someone comes to them and says "hey, I've got this old account and I can't access it, I want to get it back". What do you suppose you would ask?

If your answer is "how can I prove that you're the original owner", good.

Now think about all the data that Valve may have on this account - what could they use to verify with you that ONLY the original opwner would know?

You couldn't use any of the live data such as naming games and so on, as that's easily available.

You are ONLY left with personal information from some time ago when you created it. It's unfortunate but there's no other way.Think about it.

[Nex]

Escrito originalmente por MalikQayum:

It made sense in the beginning when people lost their accounts and it obviously became a staple in how to get your account back. little did valve know, that they wouldn't come up with something better and just assumed people would sit for 16 + years on the first cd key they ever activated.

it makes total sense that we need to hold on to these keys until we either pass away or we stop using steam.

It makes sense and doesn't make sense at the same time. Cause I know a few of my friends when Valve started allowing activations of Half-Life, Counter-Strike assumed they didn't need to hold onto the CD cases since the key was technically now linked to steam. I kept all my Half Life copies even the ones I didn't use the key for and managed to hang onto the boxes since 1998.

[crunchyfrog]

Escrito originalmente por haha reZ go woof:

Escrito originalmente por MalikQayum:

It made sense in the beginning when people lost their accounts and it obviously became a staple in how to get your account back. little did valve know, that they wouldn't come up with something better and just assumed people would sit for 16 + years on the first cd key they ever activated.

it makes total sense that we need to hold on to these keys until we either pass away or we stop using steam.

It makes sense and doesn't make sense at the same time. Cause I know a few of my friends when Valve started allowing activations of Half-Life, Counter-Strike assumed they didn't need to hold onto the CD cases since the key was technically now linked to steam. I kept all my Half Life copies even the ones I didn't use the key for and managed to hang onto the boxes since 1998.

That doesn't disprove the "makes sense" thing in any way.

It just makes it unfortunate consequence.

Also, you can't easily compare the two, as Steam back then was NEVER meant to be a store for others' games. It was meant as a delivery device for Valve's own stuff, a vision with pretty narrow scope.

They couldn't possibly have planned for the accounts becoming as large and desirable as they are nor the breadth of stuff they sell, and the features offred.

The bottom line remainsif you were in their shoes how would YOU go about making sure the person claiming to own the account is legit? You can't use current details as that's something a scammer would know or readily find out with just a modicum of searching.

You need to go quite a ways back, and what other private info could they accept other than old credit card data used, or CD keys?

It's all very well moaning about this, but they have to make a judgement based on SOMETHING evidential.

[Ishaay]

its amazing

[ecznos]

Escrito originalmente por Yikes:

Why I would bother to remember that stuff?

Now you know why.

[ChaiWallaHeadshot]

NO

[Muppet among Puppets]

In generalized form, what kinds of proof do you have and from when (also generalized) after creating and adding things and paying into the account these proofs come into play?