Secret176 May 25, 2023 @ 8:18am
Why are you censoring war thunder bad reviews
they are not irrelevant, they are facts war thunder is a super p2w game and the devs don't care at all about the new players, they made the grind in the last 3 years 200% harder, so don't put 100k bad reviews as irrelevant they are facts

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Lithurge May 25, 2023 @ 8:27am 
Because review bombing is a thing and whilst you may feel it's justified in this case (I have no skin in this one) it has been used in the past for illegitimate grievances so Steam will react to prevent it.
King Fossil May 25, 2023 @ 8:42am 
I mean, you know why. Steam is a games store. Valve like selling games/game accessories, and bad reviews hurt sales so that's less money for them. It's just business. Same reason why they pay far less attention to positive review bombs.
They don't tamper with review scores that often because if they do that too much people will stop trusting reviews entirely, but they will every once in a while if they think they can get away with it. Now is one of those times.
Chompman May 25, 2023 @ 9:07am 
Click the edit preference button on that game store page and you can see the reason and disable that if you wish.

There is a valid reason they do this.
Secret176 May 25, 2023 @ 9:46am 
yeah tricking people into getting in a bad game that will ruin their wallet, imagine being ok with what is going on
Secret176 May 25, 2023 @ 9:47am 
i already don't trust any reviews on steam id rather go ask on discord or even damn reddit, if censoring is being used as a way to increase revenue this sucks
Last edited by Secret176; May 25, 2023 @ 9:47am
UrbanMech May 25, 2023 @ 10:00am 
I looked at it. Looks like WT changed the economy for a ton worse from the sounds of it. So I guess Steams anti review bombing doesn't take in consideration that games can dramatically change for the worse which would obviously make people not recommend it in a big wave with the patch.

Yea that's a problem.
Lithurge May 25, 2023 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by Secret176:
yeah tricking people into getting in a bad game that will ruin their wallet, imagine being ok with what is going on
I've always steered clear of these types of game because they are cynical cash grabs, however as the initial game is free, people don't lose anything but some time if they start playing it, realise what it is and stop playing it.

If they choose to spend money on it's play to win mechanics they have to take responsibility for that. Even avoiding these types of games I was aware of the trick the dev was trying to pull, so it's not like it was secret just because of Steams standard practice for review bombing.
wuddih May 25, 2023 @ 10:52am 
what you are on about is the OFF-TOPIC filtering and that just excludes all affected reviews from the overall score. the reviews are not deleted nor even hidden from sight.

this process is done when most of the unconstructive feedback is bandwagon jumpers that have no substance other than: "spongebob squarepants"
and even with the process being applied, it did not change much. the impact from the non-offtopic reviews is still there from before the off-topic period

this exclusion from the review score, again, that is all that this does, can be globally disabled for yourself:
https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences/ in Review Score Settings

you should look up what "censor" actually means
BJWyler May 25, 2023 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Secret176:
yeah tricking people into getting in a bad game that will ruin their wallet, imagine being ok with what is going on
Never spent a dime on War Thunder, and I win plenty of matches and enjoy playing the game. So ... once again maybe it's a bunch of people who don't understand what P2W really is.
Tito Shivan May 25, 2023 @ 12:08pm 
Reviews are not being censored.
Game is rated "Overwhelmingly Negative" on recent reviews. So negative recent reviews ARE being accounted for.

What I think it happens is:
-People are massively reviewing negatively the game
-Within those there's a percentage doing it for offtopic reasons.
-That subset of reviewers has triggered the 'period of offtopic activity'
-That subset of reviews has been 'filtered' off the rating
-even with that subset of reviews filtered the game rating has still tanked rock bottom.
-Some sites, avid for clicks and views, go for the clickbait 'STEAM IS FILTERING ALL REVIEWS'
-Disregarding facts, people jump into the Steam hate train.
-People don't see the forest for the trees and start burning up things.

TLDR:
Steam isn't censoring war thunder bad reviews. They're [air_quotes]censoring[/air_quotes] offtopic reviews. There's still enough bad reviews being accounted than the game rating has crashed which wouldn't happen if all bad reviews were being [air_quotes]censoring[/air_quotes].
Last edited by Tito Shivan; May 25, 2023 @ 12:11pm
ShelLuser May 25, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Secret176:
they are not irrelevant, they are facts war thunder is a super p2w game and the devs don't care at all about the new players
What are you going on about? If you check the game hub then you'll see that most players consider this a bad game. It's rated as "Mostly negative", but for recent reviews (19 thousand).

If you look below that you'll see "Mostly positive" for the past 386 thousand reviews.

Ergo: the system still works as far as I can tell.
SolidSpaceDisk May 25, 2023 @ 2:06pm 
anyway, I think snowtopia is more ridiculous, there is no copy-and-paste or joke negative reviews like war thunder but Valve still marks them off-topic. So I don't know how that filter actually work.
Last edited by SolidSpaceDisk; May 25, 2023 @ 2:07pm
Col.Firefly May 25, 2023 @ 4:24pm 
Because Steam likes money.

Don't forget that purchases for WT that go through Steam they take a cut of.

This cynical and shallow attempt to disguise the community outrage just shows that Steam lacks credibility.
Crash Bandicoot May 25, 2023 @ 4:46pm 
Just search for reviews on Metacritics, their only issue is that they give more value to critics review.

For example: War Thunder has a 81 metascore, while it's got a 3.9 userscore. If you search on Google, they'll show the 81 score.
Last edited by Crash Bandicoot; May 25, 2023 @ 4:49pm
iainduncan3 May 26, 2023 @ 5:32am 
Originally posted by Chompman:
Click the edit preference button on that game store page and you can see the reason and disable that if you wish.

There is a valid reason they do this.
not in this case. The reviews are made as a result of months of terrible updates. This isn't some stupid ♥♥♥♥ were the game adds representation are losers mass downvote, the game has added countless updates of terrible quality that have made the game nigh unplayable.
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