Did Epic cause EA & Microsoft to come to Steam
Before Epic got into PC gaming, EA was avoiding steam like the plague and Microsoft never really paid mush attention to the platform but now they pulled a 180 out of nowhere. was it because of Epic and their exclusivity schemes? that Valve called in couple of favours. i know they got a bit of history (EA used to publish Valve games & the big boss used to work at Microsoft) or do you think it was just to make more money which is the obvious one.
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I think its very likely Epic may have made it faster for EA, but I do not think there the reason, I think its likely EA may have return to Steam regardless of Epic coming or not

so or so I think there will be more than one reason for EA to decide to get back on Steam, they're a big company and I think only Epic coming around is unlikely to be the only reason for it, if its a reason at all

To be honest, I will not be surprised if we may see EA on Epic soon as well, I mean can't really see why they will not want to expand if they already selling in more then one store
Messaggio originale di Black Blade:
I think its very likely Epic may have made it faster for EA, but I do not think there the reason, I think its likely EA may have return to Steam regardless of Epic coming or not

so or so I think there will be more than one reason for EA to decide to get back on Steam, they're a big company and I think only Epic coming around is unlikely to be the only reason for it, if its a reason at all

To be honest, I will not be surprised if we may see EA on Epic soon as well, I mean can't really see why they will not want to expand if they already selling in more then one store

yeah they already got fallen order on there so won't be surprised if that happens
Epic is an extra competitor to both EA and Microsoft too. With Ubisoft moving away from Steam, it left an AAA hole in Steam (so to speak).
From what I have read in the past years, both are heavily going for their game passes and it does make sense to put those on other storefronts as well to pull new customers into their launchers/stores.

Obviously money is the main reason, but the changes in the market might have influenced their decisions.
Not sure exactly when Epic's game store started to become better known but Microsoft (aka XBox game studios) has games dating back to 2014 / 2015 which I believe pre-dates the whole Epic hype. And not some small titles either: Ori, Halo.. heck, I just noticed that MS Flight simulator X dates back to 2006. That's a major MS title right there...
Messaggio originale di ShelLuser:
Not sure exactly when Epic's game store started to become better known but Microsoft (aka XBox game studios) has games dating back to 2014 / 2015 which I believe pre-dates the whole Epic hype. And not some small titles either: Ori, Halo.. heck, I just noticed that MS Flight simulator X dates back to 2006. That's a major MS title right there...
Microsoft Flight Simulator was put on Steam in 2014. 2006 is the release date of the original game.

Microsoft did stop putting bigger games on Steam for a few years. Halo came in 2019 (after Epic came to existence in dec 2018) and games like Gears 5 normally wouldn't have been put on Steam by Microsoft. That all changed after March 2019, when Microsoft decided to come back (so to speak).
No Epic didn't cause it, what cause it is that EA and Microsoft caused it themselves.
My guess is EA put their games on steam to have more users use their "EA Play"?. It's good they came because they did not have that many payment options for me to buy from them. I haven't brought a single EA games because of it.

Has for Microsoft my guess it's due to Phil Spencer?. He is the best thing ever happened to MS Gaming.

Whatever the cases it's all good news. There is just more ways to buy their games.
The answer is no.

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Messaggio originale di cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
The answer is no.
Yeah. I think both EA and Microsoft are playing the long ball here. Epic just happened all along.

At the end of the day there's two ways to make a game (or product) sold.
-Make people go to where the game is (Origin, Microsoft Store, Applestore)
-Put your game where people buys stuff (Steam, Electronics store)

EA and MS are just complementing their sales strategy by doing the latter: Putting their games where gamers are.

They already have their own 'Applestores' for the most loyal userbase. But just like you can also buy an iPhone in electronic stores outside Applestores EA and MS are placing their products in other stores too.

They know in the long run diversification brings more money. They still keep their own storefronts for the 'premium' experience (IE: releases) but at the end of the day you'll be able to walk down to your store of choice to get the game without directly going to their store.

Messaggio originale di Black Blade:
To be honest, I will not be surprised if we may see EA on Epic soon as well, I mean can't really see why they will not want to expand if they already selling in more then one store
IMHO In the case of Epic it might be a case of brand perception. If I had to bet they're probably waiting for Epic to 'show their cards' so to speak. Epic has been kicking all the wasp nests they've found along the way and if there's something companies dislike is bad marketing. They might be waiting for Epic's waters to 'settle down' before jumping on the ship.
No, I doubt it much.

Sure, there may be a tiny amount of hastening the decision but it won't have had a large effect. Basic rules apply here - MONEY.

When EA started Origin - don't forget this is their THIRD attempt at their own service - it was an uphill battle even though there were only a handful of platforms then. Steam had THE majority by far though. So they've been around some time, and the obvious benefit to having their games on their styore is they get to keep the roughly 30% that would otherwise be given to Valve with each sale. That's a stack of cash!

But as Steam keeps growing, Origin hasn't grown at the same rate, so with that in mind it's very simple maths to see that having all your eggs in one basket after they've been doing this a number of years is just lost revenue.

I mean, if they have their games purely on their platform, they get to keep ALL the revenue, but the sales are substantially less than they would be on Steam. So in having both on the go, EA still get their sales on Origina but even though they have to pay that 30% on Steam sales, it's still MORE revenue for digital goods which have no manufacturing costs, haulage or storage.

So yeah, it's patently obvious why and it's likely nothing to do with what others are doing in the way you think.
my guess and prediction, to a extent OP the answer is semi-yes, valve quietly have done partnerships, EA,Microsoft to bring their games to steam because epic was taking to many AAA to their store. does not look good on steam behalf as it has alot of new and old AAA..

Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:
When EA started Origin - don't forget this is their THIRD attempt at their own service.
I remember it pretty well. It's the very reason why I didn't want anything to do with Origin for a couple years after they released. I wanted to be sure this wasn't just another of EA's happy ideas and they wouldn't call it a day and ditch the service a year later because reasons.

(They also managed to lose my former EA account which I couldn't port to Origin and had to start a new account)
I didn't think much of Origin either at first, especially off the back of that Spore DRM debacle. However it has been a constant for a few years and i got into it. The service is fine these days, i've got no real issues with it at all.
i dont like this why they did it
Messaggio originale di Tito Shivan:
Messaggio originale di crunchyfrog:
When EA started Origin - don't forget this is their THIRD attempt at their own service.
I remember it pretty well. It's the very reason why I didn't want anything to do with Origin for a couple years after they released. I wanted to be sure this wasn't just another of EA's happy ideas and they wouldn't call it a day and ditch the service a year later because reasons.

(They also managed to lose my former EA account which I couldn't port to Origin and had to start a new account)

Once again, I absolutely agree as I did similarly. I have no fondness as on the whole I've found their games often are soulless pap, too middle of the road. But when they were putting out Dead Space and Dragon Age and a couple of minor ones, I had some interest. But I wasn't going to into Origin unless, as you point out, I was sure they weren't going to either half arse it or ♥♥♥♥ it up once again with poor organization.

Now it's a few years down the line I bought one of the Dead Space games recently on there to go with the charity bundle I started the account with some years ago.

I'm still reticent but at least I'm not so bothered about the half arsed thing any more. Sadly though Visceral have gone and I doubt there' much for me.
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