Steam is the best place for Sex games

[Brian9824]

I mean personally I don't buy them, but everyone deserves to have what they enjoy easily accessible, so i'm glad to see Steam making it easy for people to enjoy their games.

[Brian9824]

F4T4L1TY님이 먼저 게시:

so sad in Germany... we could watch all HC Prn stuff, but Adult games are nogo :/ grrrr

Hopefully Germany stops being so draconian and joins the majority of the rest of the world.

[Hanzo The Rain]

Back then, people had to buy adult games from dodgy virus ridden sites.

I'm so glad that Valve allowed them so everyone can finally buy them here instead.

Be grateful for it.

[Lily McFluffy Butt]

Sleepy님이 먼저 게시:

Back then, people had to buy adult games from dodgy virus ridden sites.

I'm so glad that Valve allowed them so everyone can finally buy them here instead.

Be grateful for it.

That's the thing people don't realize about banning something so broad. It doesn't just magically disappear, it goes to shady, unregulated places.

[Pscht]

brian9824님이 먼저 게시:

Hopefully Germany stops being so draconian and joins the majority of the rest of the world.

In this case it's a matter of multiple factors (at least if I understood it right): Valve blocks the stuff in Germany because
- these games don't have official age ratings (those cost money, and the games are without fail small indies)
- there are ways to prove one's age but Valve doesn't want to implement them (again - costs money, and cuts into their profits)

[MadZec]

Pscht님이 먼저 게시:

brian9824님이 먼저 게시:

Hopefully Germany stops being so draconian and joins the majority of the rest of the world.

In this case it's a matter of multiple factors (at least if I understood it right): Valve blocks the stuff in Germany because
- these games don't have official age ratings (those cost money, and the games are without fail small indies)
- there are ways to prove one's age but Valve doesn't want to implement them (again - costs money, and cuts into their profits)

ALL games have official age ratings.
Only reason why Valve does not have some games in Germany is because of German laws..

[Pscht]

MadZec님이 먼저 게시:

ALL games have official age ratings.

Yeah, sure. And they spontaneously pop into existence or what?

[wuddih]

Pscht님이 먼저 게시:

brian9824님이 먼저 게시:

Hopefully Germany stops being so draconian and joins the majority of the rest of the world.

In this case it's a matter of multiple factors (at least if I understood it right): Valve blocks the stuff in Germany because
- these games don't have official age ratings (those cost money, and the games are without fail small indies)
- there are ways to prove one's age but Valve doesn't want to implement them (again - costs money, and cuts into their profits)

yup, these do not have USK ratings, it is not that expensive, but also not recommended for adult only titles to undertake as that could lead to get listed on the index and then it becomes illegal to sell in germany.

anyway ... on Steam and how store pages are made, Valve is not allowed to show those games per german jurisdiction unless the age is verified beforehand.

implementing one of the already existing systems (*german)[www.kjm-online.de] should not take long and does not cost much but most of them just cover germany and are not relevant for other countries ... and this is where the cookie crumbles. Valve has the legal precautions done and have a business registered in germany (hamburg) ... but .. how Valve is, no one wants to implement this. it is more comfortable to continue like it is now and maybe wait for an age verification solution that is more global and also accredited in germany.

[The Commendatore]

Oh, yes.

[Website Updated]

Absolutely agree.

[cinedine]

MadZec님이 먼저 게시:

ALL games have official age ratings.

In the big picutre pretty much no game has. Digital-only titles are excluded in most jurisdictions as they are mainly for physical releases sold in stores where your local youth protection laws applies. (Which is why Valve gets away with selling 18+ titles to underage while a brick and mortar store will get a hefty fine.)

Also an "official" age rating is anything but. ESRB ratings have no hold anywhere and are just a recommendation. PEGI as a "pan-european" is not applicable in Germany where only the USK rating counts, same as in many other countries that have their own offical rating board. And there are vast differences at how something is rated as well as the rating "steps". As I mentioned earlier, a German game received a 16+ rating here but an Ao by the ESRB. Australia didn't have a "mature" rating for a long time, so anything not feasible for G or PG was an automatic 18+.
The Apple store ratings don't have any legal weight.

For any board I know of, the studio has to apply for a rating or can undergo self-certification for certain scenarios (like download-only or browser titles). But many, many do not, especially indie games and mobile games.

[Icedfate]

i don't particularly care for porn games, but i did check the box to allow the adult content to be shown, because there can sometimes be a good game that gets tagged as adult content for whatever reason, so i choose to allow it and. . .
whenever i start a new discovery queue, 6/10 of the games it shows me are porn games on average. . .
like i said, it doesn't bother me, i just click past them, but it seems odd that 60% of the games being recommended to me are porn games. . and 50% of those are hentai anime cat girl porn and i have never bought anything like that in the past.
sometimes it says like "this is being recommended to you because you played witcher 3" and yeah witcher has some implied sex scenes, but i don't think anyone considers witcher 3 a porn game.

[Pierce Dalton]

brian9824님이 먼저 게시:

Pierce Dalton님이 먼저 게시:

Too bad most of them are just slides without any gameplay.

People enjoy visual novels, I just finished Digimon Survive recently myself.

Yeah, they can be fun... when they have choices.

[Lithurge]

Icedfate님이 먼저 게시:

sometimes it says like "this is being recommended to you because you played witcher 3" and yeah witcher has some implied sex scenes, but i don't think anyone considers witcher 3 a porn game.

It most likely comes down to a combination of how the recommendation algorithm is built and the multi-tag nature of Steam.

Something along the lines of x number of people play TW3, y number of those people also play Cat Girl games (both of which can be labelled RPG or adventure or anything along those lines), therefore z person (you) might like Cat Girl games.

The adult thing is almost irrelevant only really coming down to blocking or not blocking them depending on your preference setting.

[Brian9824]

MadZec님이 먼저 게시:

Pscht님이 먼저 게시:

In this case it's a matter of multiple factors (at least if I understood it right): Valve blocks the stuff in Germany because
- these games don't have official age ratings (those cost money, and the games are without fail small indies)
- there are ways to prove one's age but Valve doesn't want to implement them (again - costs money, and cuts into their profits)

ALL games have official age ratings.
Only reason why Valve does not have some games in Germany is because of German laws..

Actually age ratings are optional, you just can't sell the games in some stores without them, but there is no law in most countries requiring them

[Brian9824]

Icedfate님이 먼저 게시:

i don't particularly care for porn games, but i did check the box to allow the adult content to be shown, because there can sometimes be a good game that gets tagged as adult content for whatever reason, so i choose to allow it and. . .
whenever i start a new discovery queue, 6/10 of the games it shows me are porn games on average. . .
like i said, it doesn't bother me, i just click past them, but it seems odd that 60% of the games being recommended to me are porn games. . and 50% of those are hentai anime cat girl porn and i have never bought anything like that in the past.
sometimes it says like "this is being recommended to you because you played witcher 3" and yeah witcher has some implied sex scenes, but i don't think anyone considers witcher 3 a porn game.

Do you have an example of a good game being tagged as adult content? I mean user tags don't define that, its a flag steam or the dev itself sets.