Is Valve a Triple-A company?

[bubbledouble]

I tried google, but all i got was valves (valves, the object not the company)

[Black Blade]

Try there full name
Valve Corporation

And i do not think there is a clear answer, it depends what you call Indie or AAA

Remmber AAA is basicly made up, the Dev say there AAA more or less meaning there games are the top, but dose it really always stand?
I don't think it dose
and honstly i think its not words with true clear meaning

Indie just means there Independent so they got no funding of a publisher
So in that case Valve is an Indie Company
but so is EA (games from there own studio) as there a publisher and the developer of these games
Also CD project red
Sony Studios
Micrsoft games

and so on

[bubbledouble]

Originally posted by Black Blade:

Try there full name
Valve Corporation

And i do not think there is a clear answer, it depends what you call Indie or AAA

Remmber AAA is basicly made up, the Dev say there AAA more or less meaning there games are the top, but dose it really always stand?
I don't think it dose
and honstly i think its not words with true clear meaning

Indie just means there Independent so they got no funding of a publisher
So in that case Valve is an Indie Company
but so is EA (games from there own studio) as there a publisher and the developer of these games
Also CD project red
Sony Studios
Micrsoft games

and so on

oh ok, thanks

[[{MaDef224}]]

I think valve is a AAA company:

Annoying
Awful
Atrocious

;)

[ViciousV]

Are you the same kalashnikov dude that made the AK?

[僕の名前 (仮)]

There's no strict term for AAA game, or it's lost meaning over time.

[Poobah Gorg]

Valve isn't an indie, they just happen to be their own distributor. Going by Dimitri's definition one could call Electronic Arts or Ubisoft indies too. Or call Microsoft an indie if they developed a game in-house.

[bubbledouble]

Originally posted by Poobah Gorg:

Valve isn't an indie, they just happen to be their own distributor. Going by Dimitri's definition one could call Electronic Arts or Ubisoft indies too. Or call Microsoft an indie if they developed a game in-house. :special:

That's not my definition, it's Black Blade's definition. I was surprised when he said that too. Everytime i heard indie, i would think of a little team with low budget making and publishing the games by themselves. That's what i think now too

[HLCinSC]

To me an indie developer is one that has secured funding for their game that allows them to be basically independent/free from control/influence by a publisher (if they do not self publish). An indie company may have employees that were once employees of other developers, an indie company does not go around buying other development studios.

An AAA company will have various development studios and publish games from both in house devs and those from other studios. As part of their publishing/funding agreement the publisher will exert various levels of control/influence over the project.

[Falro the Great]

To me, an indie is a small to medium-sized company (i.e. no more than a few hundred employees) that:
- funds and publishes their game(s) independently
- does not publish games for other developers

With that definition, Valve is an indie, but EA and others who are full-on dev/pubs are not.

[Insanity Claus]

Generally speaking, indie means that you and your publisher/distributor are not mainstream entities. This is also true for music and film. Paradox, for example, is often viewed as an indie publisher, while Microsoft and EA are not considered indie publishers. It's fairly subjective and, in the end, I think a rather pointless argument to get hung up on.

Some view indie as simply meaning that the creator(s) get no funding from publishers/labels/distributors. Is Valve indie? Likely not. They are the largest digital retailer for games and they are a huge and notable developer. Yes, they are independent, in the sense that they don't need to rely on funding from anyone else to create their products, but the sheer size and scope of Valve makes it difficult to think of them as really an indie company. That they self-publish does not, IMO, make them indie.

I think it's kind of like saying Radiohead is an indie band because they recorded and published "In Rainbows" with their own money. On some technical levels, you are completely correct, but it just feels off and kind of wrong to call Radiohead an indie band.

[Dracon]

Originally posted by Dimitri Kalashnikov:

I tried google, but all i got was valves (valves, the object not the company)

They are, they got quite high ranking in fobles.

[Tito Shivan]

Originally posted by Poobah Gorg:

Valve isn't an indie, they just happen to be their own distributor. Going by Dimitri's definition one could call Electronic Arts or Ubisoft indies too. Or call Microsoft an indie if they developed a game in-house. :special:

In fact. Both EA and Ubisoft are more publishers than developers. The actual development of games falls within game studios owned by or collaborating with them.

Valve actually published the retail versions of the Orange Box & Portal 2 through EA.

[Insanity Claus]

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

Originally posted by Poobah Gorg:

Valve isn't an indie, they just happen to be their own distributor. Going by Dimitri's definition one could call Electronic Arts or Ubisoft indies too. Or call Microsoft an indie if they developed a game in-house. :special:

In fact. Both EA and Ubisoft are more publishers than developers. The actual development of games falls within game studios owned by or collaborating with them.

Valve actually published the retail versions of the Orange Box & Portal 2 through EA.

EA also published and distributed the retail versions of L4D, and was distributor for retail versions of L4D2.

[wuddih]

Originally posted by BS LeavingLasVegas:

Originally posted by Tito Shivan:

In fact. Both EA and Ubisoft are more publishers than developers. The actual development of games falls within game studios owned by or collaborating with them.

Valve actually published the retail versions of the Orange Box & Portal 2 through EA.

EA also published and distributed the retail versions of L4D, and was distributor for retail versions of L4D2.

EA is just distributor, never publisher. Valve cut all publishing rights with other companies after the fiasko with Vivendi/Sierra.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by wuddih:

EA is just distributor, never publisher. Valve cut all publishing rights with other companies after the fiasko with Vivendi/Sierra.

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