100% CPU with i5-3570k 4.5ghz and GTX 1070

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I've seen people with about the same stuff as me and not be at 100% CPU, so I'm wondering if something might be wrong. Is there something I can do to "fix", or at least make it better, that doesn't involve the usual "heh you gotta upgrade your PC" answers? Think it might get better with a patch or nVidia drivers?

[cooperman]

Originally posted by human trash:

Originally posted by Aeternum:

I also start suffering from fps drops 1-2 hours into the game. This happens with an overclocked i5 9600k and gtx 980.

Forgot to mention that reducing the graphical settings to the absolute low in-game and turning vsync on/off in nvidia control panel does nothing to eliminate this issue. Also only happens in Sekiro.

Yeah let's wait for graphics drivers for the game (hopefully there'll be some) and maybe a patch to see if it makes it any better. Have any idea what your frames drop to?

The game runs flawlessly for me with a 980 + i5 4690 and 16gbs of ram.

[revolver-22]

Originally posted by digitalis:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

Usage will depend on how powerful your GPU is, are you running a 1070?

This isn't to do with hardware limitation, it's an issue with the game optimization. I have a GTX 1060 OC 6GB and it drops even if I lower all settings and resolution to 720p.

The lower the resolution, the more a CPU bottleneck is more evident.

What's your CPU?

[FeilDOW]

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

Usage will depend on how powerful your GPU is, are you running a 1070?

A GTX 1060. And it's true, the stronger the GPU, it will demand More on the CPU but only on very CPU bound games that need 6 threads or more.

If your CPU is hitting 100% and your GPU usage is dropping you are CPU limited like the OP. If you had a 1070 you would be in the same situation.

Our game engines are starting to use more cores as can be seen in many newer games and a 7 year old 4c CPU with a 1070 will show this. I can see this very clear in my daughters rig that has a r3 1200@3.9 with a 1080.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by digitalis:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

Usage will depend on how powerful your GPU is, are you running a 1070?

This isn't to do with hardware limitation, it's an issue with the game optimization. I have a GTX 1060 OC 6GB and it drops even if I lower all settings and resolution to 720p.

It's definitely a problem with your hardware.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1692629688

There's absolutely nothing unhealthy about the CPU usage of this game, it's more consistent than just about any other modern release.

[revolver-22]

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

A GTX 1060. And it's true, the stronger the GPU, it will demand More on the CPU but only on very CPU bound games that need 6 threads or more.

I your CPU is hitting 100% and your GPU usage is dropping you are CPU limited like the OP. If you had a 1070 you would be in the same situation.

Our game engines are starting to use more cores as can be seen in many newer games and a 7 year old 4c CPU with a 1070 will show this. I can see this very clear in my daughters rig that has a r3 1200@3.9 with a 1080.

Except OP's i5 is clocked way higher than mine due to overclock so it should handle a 1070 with ease. And no, this game is NOT CPU demanding at all. Look at the damn requirements. 100% i5 on all games with a 1070? Total garbage. Depends on the game and on this game, it would not be the case. CPU bottleneck is per game and their CPU demand, is not something general.

OP has something on the background eating his CPU cycles.

[FeilDOW]

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

I your CPU is hitting 100% and your GPU usage is dropping you are CPU limited like the OP. If you had a 1070 you would be in the same situation.

Our game engines are starting to use more cores as can be seen in many newer games and a 7 year old 4c CPU with a 1070 will show this. I can see this very clear in my daughters rig that has a r3 1200@3.9 with a 1080.

Except OP's i5 is clocked way higher than mine due to overclock so it should handle a 1070 with ease. And no, this game is NOT CPU demanding at all. Look at the damn requirements. 100% i5 on all games with a 1070? Total garbage. Depends on the game and on this game, it would not be the case. CPU bottleneck is per game and their CPU demand, is not something general.

OP has something on the background eating his CPU cycles.

There was a decent IPC bump from 3rd to 4th gen and his CPU OCed is 10% faster and the 1070 is on average 40% stronger than a 1060.

He is hitting a CPU limitation, like you would with a 1070.

[DamZe]

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

Originally posted by DamZe:

Probably not, the 3570K has only 4 threads and these console ports were programmed with 8 threads in mind. Older gen 4-core i5s are going to get hit hard in 2019.

EDIT: Is your CPU throttling and are you seeing FPS drops? If not then you may just have to live with it, or wait for a patch by FROM.

BS. Most games still run ok on an i5. Also, consoles may have 8 cores, but they are quite slow and the game on consoles is not 60 locked, it drops often, around 35-45 fps. Go and watch the DF video. My i5 holds 60 fps locked at this game. Also, the game requirements don't even ask for an i7. Stop guessing and missinforming people.

Thank you for proving my point and coming off as a tryhard.

Console CPUs are slower than on average more cores than your typical PC config, but to brute force 60FPS in modern games you need decent IPC. This is where older 4-core CPUs are beginning to feel the squeeze in modern AAA titles.

Inform yourself before spouting your vile bile you private profile troll.

[Kaldaien]

With that said, the game uses multi-threaded rendering w/ 16 queues. Any system with a lot of cores and an NVIDIA driver is going to do quite well in this game. Ryzen + GeForce GTX is the ideal hardware configuration.

An Intel i5 CPU won't be taken advantage of with an AMD GPU because AMD's drivers do not like this kind of multi-threaded rendering. AMD more or less puts all their eggs into the D3D12 basket and has an inefficient D3D11 driver :-\

[revolver-22]

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

Except OP's i5 is clocked way higher than mine due to overclock so it should handle a 1070 with ease. And no, this game is NOT CPU demanding at all. Look at the damn requirements. 100% i5 on all games with a 1070? Total garbage. Depends on the game and on this game, it would not be the case. CPU bottleneck is per game and their CPU demand, is not something general.

OP has something on the background eating his CPU cycles.

There was a decent IPC bump from 3rd to 4th gen and his CPU OCed is 10% faster and the 1060 6gb is on average 40% stronger than a 1060.

He is hitting a CPU limitation.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4590-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/2604vs1316

The only limitation here is your ignorance and self-made beliefs about CPU's. I am done here. IPC change from 3rd to 4th gen was minimal, at least look up the information before guessing. This game is not CPU intensive at all and his OC'ed i5 should have no problems at this game with a 1070. All you do is spread BS and missinformation.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

There was a decent IPC bump from 3rd to 4th gen and his CPU OCed is 10% faster and the 1060 6gb is on average 40% stronger than a 1060.

He is hitting a CPU limitation.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4590-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/2604vs1316

The only limitation here is your ignorance and self-made beliefs about CPU's. I am done here. IPC change from 3rd to 4th gen was minimal, at least look up the information before guessing. This game is not CPU intensive at all and his OC'ed i5 should have no problems at this game with a 1070. All you do is spread BS and missinformation.

Except it only has 4 cores to drive 8 render threads and 16 command queues from. It's most certainly not the correct CPU to pair with the game. It's not really going to matter since the OP only wants to hit 60 FPS, but that CPU's just not equipped for the job.

[revolver-22]

Originally posted by DamZe:

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

BS. Most games still run ok on an i5. Also, consoles may have 8 cores, but they are quite slow and the game on consoles is not 60 locked, it drops often, around 35-45 fps. Go and watch the DF video. My i5 holds 60 fps locked at this game. Also, the game requirements don't even ask for an i7. Stop guessing and missinforming people.

Thank you for proving my point and coming off as a tryhard.

Console CPUs are slower than on average more cores than your typical PC config, but to brute force 60FPS in modern games you need decent IPC. This is where older 4-core CPUs are beginning to feel the squeeze in modern AAA titles.

Inform yourself before spouting your vile bile you private profile troll.

To begin with, you dumb baboon, OP's CPU runs like mine at stock clocks, yet his has quite a bit overclock, which surpasses mine and has more issues than I do to run the game. Why? Because he has either a malware or a background program eating his CPU cycles, it's not because he has an "older 4 core CPU". Anyway, you can keep believing whatever the ♥♥♥♥ you want, you resented console peasant. Go lick your PS4Pro's surface. A simple comment made you mad and then you decided, that for some reason, I am less right due to having a private profile. Hilarious.

Look at this, you dumb moron: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7500-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/3648vs1316

Wow! A newer i5 is nearly identical to a third gen i5! But noooooo, OP has issues because he has a 3rd gen i5 and it's old so that's why he gets a 100% usage. Does not matter if it performs well and it's fast even today, if it's not new, it's slow and I know it all.

Since when console kids started to mouth their opinion and show how low minded they are?

[digitalis]

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

Originally posted by digitalis:

This isn't to do with hardware limitation, it's an issue with the game optimization. I have a GTX 1060 OC 6GB and it drops even if I lower all settings and resolution to 720p.

Your CPU limited situation gets worse the lower the resolution, what CPU are you running and does it hit 100% when you get FPS drops?

Admittedly I have an old i7 960 OC @ 3.7GHz which doesn't help my case here.

But still @ 720p when i get FPS drop my GPU is at ~30% load. My CPU stays at 70-80% on the first core and spread of about 50% usage on all other cores when I get these drops.

It never goes above 80% usage overall. I guess I'm wondering why I can play games like RE2 & Apex Legends at 60fps with no issues but I get these weird stutter drops in this game when going between areas and sections of the level.

And then I see other people with newer & better hardware than me getting the same problem. So that's my reasoning when I say it's not a hardware limitation but something with the game.

[FeilDOW]

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

There was a decent IPC bump from 3rd to 4th gen and his CPU OCed is 10% faster and the 1060 6gb is on average 40% stronger than a 1060.

He is hitting a CPU limitation.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4590-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/2604vs1316

The only limitation here is your ignorance and self-made beliefs about CPU's. I am done here. IPC change from 3rd to 4th gen was minimal, at least look up the information before guessing. This game is not CPU intensive at all and his OC'ed i5 should have no problems at this game with a 1070. All you do is spread BS and missinformation.

The proof is in the title, it really doesn't matter if you want to see it or not...

I get it's hard to believe your CPU is coming to EOL, but it was bound to happen at some point.

[hasin]

Check what all the software running on the background.
Check the Icon tray and task manager to see them.
Uninstall all unnecessary.
This is the best thing you can do extract the best of your PC.

I personally, run only NVIDIA driver, and Steam while playing.
No Anti-Virus, no software performance booster etc. nothing like this.

[revolver-22]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Originally posted by KSr_2210:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4590-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/2604vs1316

The only limitation here is your ignorance and self-made beliefs about CPU's. I am done here. IPC change from 3rd to 4th gen was minimal, at least look up the information before guessing. This game is not CPU intensive at all and his OC'ed i5 should have no problems at this game with a 1070. All you do is spread BS and missinformation.

Except it only has 4 cores to drive 8 render threads and 16 command queues from. It's most certainly not the correct CPU to pair with the game. It's not really going to matter since the OP only wants to hit 60 FPS, but that CPU's just not equipped for the job.

It's strange, since my CPU should be slower than his because he OC'ed it and still has these issues with the game. And my CPU compared to his, runs practically the same yet I get a locked 60 on the game.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-4590-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3570K/2604vs1316