You gonna remove denuvo? after the game gets cracked?

[... Off The Bone]

doom 2016 had it, got cracked first day. All denuvo does is cause performance issues in nearly every single game that has it. It must be removed at some point.

[PCgamerbydefault]

No, denuvo does not cause performance issues. Kaldaien who is a well known user and modder in the steam world will gladly educate you better on this. So stop.

[Quadsword]

Metal Gear Solid 5 is five years old now. Cracks have been available for nearly that long. Still has Denuvo.

[⎝⧹TrM⧸⎠]

doom 2016 took 2.5 months to be cracked it did its job and protected the launch window. Denuvo is part of pc gaming now and until somthing that replaces it its here to stay.

not every game has it removed even after crack and ones that have dlc packs are even less removed due to it covering the dlc as well

dont expect doom eternal to be removed for quite a while

[The Fabulous Slayer]

Can you provide actual proof, that it causes performance issues in nearly every single game? And not "well, this game had denuvo and ran terribly", but actual study, that proves your BS.

Because in cases like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_DD-txK9_Q
People doing the oh so awesome testing, forget to mention, that those are completely different game builds, and not the same build with and without denuvo.

The only definitive case we have is this one: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-devil-may-cry-5-pc-denuvo-protection-tested
Where capcom accidentally leaked unprotected code, and in order to spot the difference, DigitalFoundry actually had to apply insane amount of limitations, even dropping the game to 480p AND cutting GPU utilisation. And even then they have to assume that the only difference is lack of Denuvo, because there's no way to actually tell.

Denuvo is bad because it can forbid you from playing your games in the future, that's it. Stop spreading baseless BS.

[󠇩⁧󠀡]

First, only the closed beta of DOOM 2016 was cracked at release.

It took 4 month to get a proper public crack available for the full game.

Second, they will release an version with denuvo removed only if the game got crack and if it happen before all the dev team move on something else.

[The Fabulous Slayer]

Originally posted by 󠀡:

First, only the closed beta of DOOM 2016 was cracked at release.

It took 4 month to get a proper public crack available for the full game.

Second, they will release an version with denuvo removed only if the game got crack and if it happen before all the dev team move on something else.

And only after all DLC is released.

[The Doctor]

Originally posted by The Joker:

Can you provide actual proof, that it causes performance issues in nearly every single game? And not "well, this game had denuvo and ran terribly", but actual study, that proves your BS.

Because in cases like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_DD-txK9_Q
People doing the oh so awesome testing, forget to mention, that those are completely different game builds, and not the same build with and without denuvo.

The only definitive case we have is this one: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-devil-may-cry-5-pc-denuvo-protection-tested
Where capcom accidentally leaked unprotected code, and in order to spot the difference, DigitalFoundry actually had to apply insane amount of limitations, even dropping the game to 480p AND cutting GPU utilisation. And even then they have to assume that the only difference is lack of Denuvo, because there's no way to actually tell.

Denuvo is bad because it can forbid you from playing your games in the future, that's it. Stop spreading baseless BS.

So much this. The denuvo complaints need to shut the ♥♥♥♥ up.

[VGamingJunkie]

What about someone with a relatively old CPU and slower System RAM? I was able to run Doom 2016 mostly fine, with some a few noticeable dips here and there, but I don't exactly have a lot of wiggle room. Would it, in any way, add additional strain on my CPU or System RAM?

[Kaldaien]

It's unfortunately never created any difference in performance that I can measure in any game I own. Granted I have high-end hardware, but I'm always profiling game code I did not write and am fairly confident my tools would measure something.

Stability ... that's a different issue, and one that nobody ever talks about. Denuvo is detrimental to game stability and is designed to crash to desktop without any explanation given.

[󠇩⁧󠀡]

Originally posted by The Joker:

Originally posted by 󠀡:

First, only the closed beta of DOOM 2016 was cracked at release.

It took 4 month to get a proper public crack available for the full game.

Second, they will release an version with denuvo removed only if the game got crack and if it happen before all the dev team move on something else.

And only after all DLC is released.

And yea probably after dlc.

[󠇩⁧󠀡]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

It's unfortunately never created any difference in performance that I can measure in any game I own. Granted I have high-end hardware, but I'm always profiling game code I did not write and am fairly confident my tools would measure something.

Stability ... that's a different issue, and one that nobody ever talks about. Denuvo is detrimental to game stability and is designed to crash to desktop without any explanation given.

do it then, and send me the link.
I'm interested in that.

[The Fabulous Slayer]

Originally posted by VGamingJunkie:

What about someone with a relatively old CPU and slower System RAM? I was able to run Doom 2016 mostly fine, with some a few noticeable dips here and there, but I don't exactly have a lot of wiggle room. Would it, in any way, add additional strain on my CPU or System RAM?

You won't notice. If your PC is capable to run the game, Denuvo won't affect you. The only case you will notice a difference is if your PC absolutely in no way capable to run the game.

[⎝⧹TrM⧸⎠]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

It's unfortunately never created any difference in performance that I can measure in any game I own. Granted I have high-end hardware, but I'm always profiling game code I did not write and am fairly confident my tools would measure something.

Stability ... that's a different issue, and one that nobody ever talks about. Denuvo is detrimental to game stability and is designed to crash to desktop without any explanation given.

Noone ever talks about stability for a simple reason they can't find a way to prove it was denuvo and make lots of youtubes videos on the issue with defining prof that cant be denied:)

[monstermaniac]

Pretty sure it's not in the game. Click the EULA and Cntrl F and type it in. Can even try typing in Anti Tamper. If they had it , they'd have to list it.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by ╲⎝⧹TrM⧸⎠╱:

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

It's unfortunately never created any difference in performance that I can measure in any game I own. Granted I have high-end hardware, but I'm always profiling game code I did not write and am fairly confident my tools would measure something.

Stability ... that's a different issue, and one that nobody ever talks about. Denuvo is detrimental to game stability and is designed to crash to desktop without any explanation given.

Noone ever talks about stability for a simple reason they can't find a way to prove it was denuvo and make lots of youtubes videos on the issue with defining prof that cant be denied:)

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/965368887094834196/EFDC4A8B99A403488275DB5EC1F0E1462A00882D/

Similarly, when Denuvo causes crashes in Monster Hunter: World, the debug symbols belonging to the executing code point to World AntiTamper.cpp.