This game has such good voice acting (japanese actors)

[McGeorgeOfTheJungle]

Never knew they really pulled out the budget for this, took me a long time to figure out who Law was, until at a campfire a random "Shokugeki" was said. Then it immediately sank in that it is Soma, from Food Wars. (And Inosuke in Demon Slayer)

I need to look up the rest, I am sure who they have voiced before. But must have cost a pretty penny.

[Tiasmoon]

Lots of well known voices. My favorite so far is Mr. Tofu

[Player 1]

They have some big timers in there, i recognised some
Law also voiced Kirito (SAO including the DLC) and Petelgeuse (Re-Zero).
Mahavar voiced Zoro (One Piece).
Boss 1 voiced Kenpachi (Bleach) and Akainu/Don Krieg (One Piece).
Boss 2 voiced Kotomine Kirei (Fate/Stay Night, Fate/Zero) and Kazuya (Tekken)

[Jeffer'son Airship]

Originally posted by McGeorgeOfTheJungle:

I need to look up the rest, I am sure who they have voiced before. But must have cost a pretty penny.

Surprisingly, they probably didn't. Japan's VA agencies tend to keep the prices low even for a lot of bigger names. Their whole system runs on set rates that don't fluctuate too much based on the VA.

[Monterossa]

I don't think it costs that much. "Big names" in JP VA scene aren't getting paid much higher than the others. Because no matter how great they are, there are tons of people to easily replace them.

Unlike the English dubbers. You have to pay huge money for the big names (who aren't even as good as newbie JP VAs), or you save your budget by hiring amateurs like those who dub anime and niche Japanese games.

[Aya]

No love for the English dub? I thought Arise did a pretty fantastic job with that one though I cannot unhear the fact that Alphen is voiced by the same guy who voiced the main villain of that one gigabad Fallout New Vegas mod. You know which one.

[Tiasmoon]

I thought Arise did a good job from the few lines I heard, then I saw the trailer in EN and realised I knew nothing. That is pretty.. lacking, to put it nicely.

Very ''overacted anime-ish'' I'd call it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul6DMPIfTA

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoeQ82PZ1q4

[Monterossa]

One thing I hate is that the English dub fans always say "This game has good English dub" and "I usually prefer Japanese but this game has great English dub."

So I try it myself to see if it's true, and 99% of the time it's bad. I can no longer trust these people's words. Not sure where's the standard for them when it comes to good English dub.

Listen to Law and Rinwell's English dub. If people still say that they're good, then I'll never trust their standards.

[Monterossa]

Originally posted by Tiasmoon:

I thought Arise did a good job from the few lines I heard, then I saw the trailer in EN and realised I knew nothing. That is pretty.. lacking, to put it nicely.

Very ''overacted anime-ish'' I'd call it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul6DMPIfTA

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoeQ82PZ1q4

Shionne - Her tone keeps changing, it's like the dubber forgot that she supposed to sounded cold all the time. In battle she simply breaks her character with the higher pitch.

Rinwell - Sounded too old.

Law - Too bratty.

Dohalim - Lost all the noble voice & the way he speaks compared to his Japanese voice. He just sounded like a generic guy in English.

Alphen/Kisara - Mediocre/decent at best.

NPCs - All are bad.

[ArtyomMMM]

Originally posted by Monterossa:

Originally posted by Tiasmoon:

I thought Arise did a good job from the few lines I heard, then I saw the trailer in EN and realised I knew nothing. That is pretty.. lacking, to put it nicely.

Very ''overacted anime-ish'' I'd call it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul6DMPIfTA

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoeQ82PZ1q4

Shionne - Her tone keeps changing, it's like the dubber forgot that she supposed to sounded cold all the time. In battle she simply breaks her character with the higher pitch.

Rinwell - Sounded too old.

Law - Too bratty.

Dohalim - Lost all the noble voice & the way he speaks compared to his Japanese voice. He just sounded like a generic guy in English.

Alphen/Kisara - Mediocre/decent at best.

NPCs - All are bad.

I love how Alfen sounds genuinely overly dramatic in Japanese VA. Thanks to this, it is immediately clear that the game should not be taken too seriously. I especially like his intonation when he worries about the fire sword when entering the water, and Shionne's response. It's just the best.

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by Monterossa:

One thing I hate is that the English dub fans always say "This game has good English dub" and "I usually prefer Japanese but this game has great English dub."

So I try it myself to see if it's true, and 99% of the time it's bad. I can no longer trust these people's words. Not sure where's the standard for them when it comes to good English dub.

Listen to Law and Rinwell's English dub. If people still say that they're good, then I'll never trust their standards.

I rarely listen to the EN track these days, so I tend to just assume its good by default just for the sake of argument. Kind of surprised the one for this game was much below what I expected.

'Zephyr' is the biggest shame there, but I dont fault them not being able to compare in that instance. In JP that guy carries the performance in every scene he is part of.

Speaking of which, many of the side characters have some epic choices of VA too. Helps a lot to give them personality without needing as much screentime.

[Jeffer'son Airship]

Originally posted by Tiasmoon:

Very ''overacted anime-ish'' I'd call it.

While I agree the Japanese voices are certainly better overall, most Japanese dubbing is overacted by default so in a way the English is true to the Japanese to its detriment. They usually have to tone it down a bit because if it was true to the Japanese it would sound utterly ridiculous in English. It's just a difference in style.

The bigger issue is just how inconsistent the voicework is. So much of it was obviously reading from a script without much given context. I'm less inclined to blame the actors themselves but Namco being too cheap to hire someone to properly direct them. That utterly kills voice work no matter the language and sadly most dubbing of Japanese games has this issue.

[LP]

Originally posted by Monterossa:

I don't think it costs that much. "Big names" in JP VA scene aren't getting paid much higher than the others. Because no matter how great they are, there are tons of people to easily replace them.

Unlike the English dubbers. You have to pay huge money for the big names (who aren't even as good as newbie JP VAs), or you save your budget by hiring amateurs like those who dub anime and niche Japanese games.

I gotta disagree with you saying big name VA is not as good as newbie JP VAs. It has been proven multiple times that language that you're not familiar with will sounds better than your native language. Famous VA like Laura Bailey and Troy Bakers are the best example, unless you're a blind otaku/weeb.

[Tiasmoon]

Originally posted by Mokinopomu:

I'm less inclined to blame the actors themselves but Namco being too cheap to hire someone to properly direct them. That utterly kills voice work no matter the language and sadly most dubbing of Japanese games has this issue.

Yeah, voice direction likely is a large part of it.

[LeeroyVanJenkins]

Yup. The game is good when they cast Zaraki Kenpachi and Sosuke Aizen on single title

[Nanashi]

Originally posted by LeeroyVanJenkins:

Yup. The game is good when they cast Zaraki Kenpachi and Sosuke Aizen on single title

I was surprised to hear them as well. They aren't exactly lightweights considering how long they've been in the business already and at which level. Same with the Matsuoka, VA of Law, although he obviously is younger than the other two.