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DUNGFIST 30/set./2020 às 21:55
Ghosts can't hunt through doors?
So I've been playing this game with a bunch of my friends and we all throughly enjoy the game and have an absolute fun. That being said, I did come across something im not sure is intentional or not.

Yesterday, we did like 6 jobs back to back on mostly professional difficulty with no one dying. Once the room with the most activity is determined, all we have to do once the lights start flashing (indicating a hunt, level 10 activity, locked doors, etc.) Is go into any room that isn't the source and closing the door. Thats it. The ghost for whatever reason either can't open the door or go through it, preventing the hunt. Even with no sanity, this still happens.. This legit kinda broke the game seeing as how we were constantly winning and getting paid, made crucifixes obsolete, and having all the items with no risk factor whatsoever. We knew once we close a door we were basically safe so no one was afraid of going into the house anymore.

I understand the game just released a week ago and the updates have been consistent so I don't hold it against the game. Just curious whether this is the intention or if its a bug because I'm not too sure. If it is a bug hopefully reporting it helps the devs. I adore the game and appreciate the devs updating it consistently which you can't say for most EA games. I can also provide footage of this if needed. Apologies for the wall of text. Just wanted to make sure I was thorough.
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GrimAtrament 12/nov./2020 às 13:13 
wraiths can 100% hunt through doors
Shooty Manz 12/nov./2020 às 13:24 
In general, its hard to say what OP and others are dealing with. From my now 170+ levels of experience it seems that ghosts get stuck on the walls when trying to reach a player. So they just kinda keep walking into the walls in order to try and reach you IF they saw you go into a room or know where you are. They will walk through doors and might even be able to see through them if they can easily get to you.

I had this experience on high school with a demon. It kept hunting and from the boys locker room to the immediate left of the ground floor. All I would do would wait for it a bit to take a pic, run down the hallway to the right of the school entrance, go passed the stairs on the right side and then turn left and run down that big long hallway on the right side bottom floor. I could hear the ghost get stuck under the stairs as after I turned the corner and broke line of sight it "kinda" knew where I was but didn't know how to get to me. So it tries to go through the wall but it obviously can't. So all it ended up doing was walking into the walls underneath the stair case and I could just hear it walking back and forth.

Hard to tell if it gives up and just starts wandering to attempt to locate another target for line of sight checks. Seems to be the case though on smaller levels as I've watched the ghost in the cameras and listened to them on the times where I am inside hiding. They mostly seem to attempt to wander at the last known player location or possibly sound of a door closing or light being turned on/off. It seems they may pick up on sounds like that. However, depending on where you are hiding relative to the ghost at the time of these things occurring, the ghost will just not know how to get to you so it runs into walls.

On a similar note, I saw someone die from a Poltergeist in the downstairs library when the ghost was in an upstairs classroom. The ghost saw the player go downstairs, followed them just fine as it was fairly close to them at the start of the hunt. I saw it through a CCTV cam in the hallway and it saw the player go into the library downstairs from the staircase which means it had line of sight still. The ghost didn't even pause. Just walked straight to the door of the library like it knew exactly where the player was, walked right through the door and killed them. Hiding behind the bookshelves did nothing it seemed.

I also watched a Revenant yesterday in Grafton farmhouse through a CCTV cam we had set up in its room and the hallway outside. Players weren't expecting a hunt and I just went to grab extra equipment and we weren't sure it was a Revenant yet. We thought we had good crucifix placement but its likely the ghost was just outside of range of one of our placements as it was in one of the big bedrooms upstairs. Either way, watching it hunt, the ghost was walking INTO one of the bedroom walls at the start as it looked like it knew there was a player on the other side of the wall in the hallway running for cover. However, it didn't know how to get to them so it just kept gliding along the wall until it reached the door. It also moved extra slow because Revenants are the slowest ghost in the game when they don't have line of sight of anyone.

Either way, once it got outside the door it seemed to slowly roam down the hallway at random with no actual target in sight. And because it was going at a snails pace even though it was a professional length hunt, it didn't get very far. So everyone was completely safe by hiding within the first 5 seconds of the hunt.

TLDR: The AI needs work still. :\
Última edição por Shooty Manz; 12/nov./2020 às 13:29
Mirage 12/nov./2020 às 13:28 
I've had a ghost open a door only once in my time playing, thinking I was safe behind a closed door before it kicked it open and a little kid walked in, luckily it was not after me but after the other person hiding in the closet or i'd be dead.
FC360 18/nov./2020 às 13:55 
The ghost can definitely go through doors, I watched a ghost hunting a friend while I was outside and my friend walked out the basement closed the door then hid in the garage. The ghost crawled up the stairs and through the door so it definitely can go through doors. I've also been killed while hiding in a locker which definitely implies it can open doors.
Quineloe 18/nov./2020 às 14:17 
everyone can easily verify this anyways. Well, if you have two players. Go Asylum, stand in the lobby in the dark until your sanity zeroes out, then one player goes back to the van and tries to find the ghost while its hunting on the cameras and you will see it go through all those closed doors.

Also might want to set up a few cameras to cover the corridors without CCTV coverage (i.e. the two eastern corridors on ground level, central corridor facing west, the eastern corridor from the lobby where camera #3 is)
Gweenie 18/nov./2020 às 14:54 
This unfortunately doesn't work 100%, I've had a ghost start a hunt when I soloed and I ran from the ground floor to the second floor and hid in a room in the far back with the door fully shut and the ghost went straight to me :winter2019neutralbulb:
Aefion 23/nov./2020 às 8:04 
Just had a gruelling mission, even though it was on Intermediate Ridgeview against a Mare. Naturally it kept turning the lights off, and then hunting, and after a time it hunted again and again and again stopping us from leaving the house because we couldn't get to the front door in time. And just when we thought we'd both make it out, the ghost hunted again. We went back to crouching with torches off in the corner of the basement, and my friend asked me if it could go through closed doors and I said I'd never seen it do that before so he just stood there near the door and watched to see if it came through. And the Mare came through the outer closed door to the basement, down the stairs, through the closed basement door and killed my teammate. So I'm gonna say that ghosts can definitely go through doors...
Cursed Hawkins 23/nov./2020 às 8:17 
Escrito originalmente por BeardedRebell:
Iv had a ghost get me in a cupboard with both doors closed. But the crucifixes are very random and don't always seem to trigger the objective even though it prevents a hunt.
Crucifixes have a limited range (3m for every ghost other than a Banshee which they extend to 5m (though I believe its 6m because it just makes sense to me that it would be doubled) but all that does is make the ghost's do a check for them before it hunts, if its within range it won't hunt if it isn't within range it will hunt.
BoxingBud 23/nov./2020 às 8:30 
Exactly, one crucifix's % chance to stop a hunt is whatever the size of the investigation area is, divided by it's range, (which is 3, or 5 for banshees) So it's actually less than 50% on a small map. It all depends where the ghost is when it can and decides to hunt. Also I believe it's a linear plain, thus a crucifix on one floor probably won't "dome" into another. I don't know about crucifixes between rooms.
FC360 23/nov./2020 às 10:56 
Escrito originalmente por Aefion:
Just had a gruelling mission, even though it was on Intermediate Ridgeview against a Mare. Naturally it kept turning the lights off, and then hunting, and after a time it hunted again and again and again stopping us from leaving the house because we couldn't get to the front door in time. And just when we thought we'd both make it out, the ghost hunted again. We went back to crouching with torches off in the corner of the basement, and my friend asked me if it could go through closed doors and I said I'd never seen it do that before so he just stood there near the door and watched to see if it came through. And the Mare came through the outer closed door to the basement, down the stairs, through the closed basement door and killed my teammate. So I'm gonna say that ghosts can definitely go through doors...

That could be a syncing issue which I've seen quite a lot where a door looks closed to a friend but is open for me so maybe it's the same with the ghost were the door is open to the ghost but looks closed to the player?
Argakyan 23/nov./2020 às 12:40 
This is intended as when a hunt starts you are supposed to hide somewhere. There is 1 ghost type that can kill you no matter where if it sees you: The wraith. It can walk and see through doors the same way dead players can.
Quineloe 23/nov./2020 às 15:23 
I thought every ghost can walk through doors, it's just that the wraith also happens to see through them so if you're hiding inside a room, other ghosts might roam by, but the wraith will see you and go for you.
Cursed Hawkins 23/nov./2020 às 15:37 
Escrito originalmente por Quineloe:
I thought every ghost can walk through doors, it's just that the wraith also happens to see through them so if you're hiding inside a room, other ghosts might roam by, but the wraith will see you and go for you.
I'm certain all ghosts can walk through doors as today I had an Oni manifest outside its favorite room (which in this case was a bathroom) while I was talking into the spirit box (got a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scare out of me at the same time) and it walked through the door to the room.
Drent-Dono 23/nov./2020 às 16:42 
I'm lvl 90+ and I only play in professionnal difficulty since I got it, and I never got killed by any ghosts when I hide in a room that was not the ghost's room, and close the door.
The only situations where I got killed in a room closed were by a Wraith who see through the door, Banshee who chase you to hell and Djinn, if the room was lighten.
But from my experiences, they never open a doo,. even if they are chasing me from 3 meters behinds, if i run into a room and close the door, they go back to their room or juste wait in front of the door.
Never saw one open it.
Cursed Hawkins 23/nov./2020 às 16:48 
Escrito originalmente por Shingo-Dono:
I'm lvl 90+ and I only play in professionnal difficulty since I got it, and I never got killed by any ghosts when I hide in a room that was not the ghost's room, and close the door.
The only situations where I got killed in a room closed were by a Wraith who see through the door, Banshee who chase you to hell and Djinn, if the room was lighten.
But from my experiences, they never open a doo,. even if they are chasing me from 3 meters behinds, if i run into a room and close the door, they go back to their room or juste wait in front of the door.
Never saw one open it.
In all the times I've seen ghosts and doors, they don't need to open them as they can just walk straight through them like their not there at all.
Edit: and on that topic a Revenant did a fake hunt on me, it shut the front door as I was walking out and manifested behind me.
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