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I still haven't played the God Eater 3 nor the 2, only GE1 on my old PSP long ago... But, I know it's a long shot and I am probably talking ♥♥♥♥, but I saw a boss here in a place with water floor and she wore a kind of a staff and deployed water attacks. Her hair was like Alyssa... Her body reminded me of the last boss from GE1, for some reason.
And since we are here, look at this screenshot:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1944058120
If I recall well, didn't we have this same construction in an arena from God Eater 1?
EDIT:
I think this was the place: https://godeater.fandom.com/wiki/Sunken_Grid
So when the devs said "They're gonna be separate", you just went "That's impossible. You don't know the game you created better than I do."
We saw one horror. We don't know how those work at all and a single one looking like Dyaus Pita (and ONLY one) would make it a reference to God Eater without "confirming beyond a shadow of a doubt" that they share a universe. It's entirely possible that each of the big horrors are singular and unique entities, much like bosses in various other games or super powerful Lost in Code Vein.
But I guess you already know exactly how horrors work, exactly what their names are, exactly how they're gonna be defeated, and everything else about future Code Vein content before the developers even start on Code Vein 3.
Developer diary for CV. Published 29th May 2019.
https://youtu.be/BPH96iSF1MY
I don't understand Japanese, so I can only assume that the translation is accurate. This is between 00:12 to 00:34.
Keita Iizuka (Producer): "This is a new a IP being developed By the same development team that made 'God Eater', and we are trying to set it apart as its own, brand new IP unconnected to 'God Eater'"
Yuta Yamamoto (Associate Director): "We started developing CODE VEIN in order to do something new, having made God Eater for so long, we really wanted to create a new property that felt different but shared the same kind of game world."
CV and GE are only related in terms of their dev team. 'Same kind of game world' is likely to mean post-apocalyptic world. That Horror is likely just a homage by the dev team and so is the gift.
Having something shown on screen doesn't necessary mean that it exactly is that (The Doll and the Monster thingie, the two things that both IPs have). Just as an example, look at Blizzard's IPs. Starcraft, Warcraft and Diablo continuously had each universes' stuff referenced in one another, but they are all separated and had nothing to do with each other (in lore). Starcraft have Lv800 Elite Tauren Chieftain and Mini Diablo, but that didn't mean that SC predates Diablo or is the future of WC.
Alternate example, every single Final Fantasy titles have their own universes. Despite the same name, none of them are connected to each other (except Kingdom Hearts, but even KH has its own lore regarding those combined universes that is different from the original).
I'm sure there are more examples out there. I just don't play enough of a variety to name some others.
Having homage paid doesn't immediately mean they are connected. The Devs even said they are unconnected. So unless you are secretly part of the dev team and have the insider knowledge about the future of CV, I'll continue to believe the interview/diary I was able to find (and not just hearsay).
((Edit: Lost the quote while editing on phone. Also words.)
If they didn't want them to share the universe, they could make the horrors be anything else, but no, they decided they were aragamis. I honestly do not understand how there can be people who refuse to accept it, it is so obvious that it is stupid to deny it
1) These are all ljust easter eggs, even the Dyaus Pita.
2) GE's reality leaked into Code Vein's, which they can always back up by saying they're part of the same multiverse.
3) CV is either a prequel or a sequel to GE. I didn't finish the game yet, but speculating from what I've seen so far, maybe Project QUEEN was developed in order to get rid of the aragami, which isn't that far fetched considering that the aragami are so strong that humans can't get rid of them efficiently, even with the god eaters. Or there was some other war going on and the project led to CV, which in turn will lead into GE eventually in the universe's timeline.
Similarities between the two franchises could be just easter eggs, such as the Moonlight sword in FromSoftware's games. But Dyaus Pita showing up as something that seems relevant to the plot suggests otherwise. And some of you have a good point. One aragami doesn't mean the two franchises are connected. However, it does suggest that might be the case. Quite strongly, even.
This reminds me of how SEGA said Phantasy Star Universe had no relation to Online. And then they introduced the Pioneer 2 as canon into Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinite. Not only that, but Rykros (the fourth planet of the Algol system) shows up in PSPo2. And even long before that, people had a lot of theories regarding Online having some sort of connection to the original series. Phantasy Star Zero (for the DS) sort of confirmed that to be the case, and there are theories around that as well since the link is a bit fragile.
We won't know what's going on for sure until the DLCs come out, though. Or maybe even the sequel.
Lucky I'm somewhat competent with the language.
Fairly accurate.
It is it's own IP and you don't need to know God Eater to know and understand this.
However....
This outright says it's the same universe.
Going back to the section in the interview and if I understand this correct.
They're in the same world.
Yes, lets ignore the entire section with Mido completly.
Guy tells you exactly how the Horrors work, tells you exactly what is needed to fight them, funny enough he literally explains God Eater in two - three sentences.
He also says what purpose the Revenants were made for, at least the 1st Generation Revenants, like him or Silva.
Aragami also spawned out of massive spikes filled to the Top with Oracel Cells, the same spikes you see everywhere inside the Red Gaol.
You're wrong, the FF Games are all connected, they share the same Universe, but have different worlds.
Imagen each game having their own small solar system, that is connected trough something called the Void.
Gilgamesh is the same person since FFV and he appeard in every game after that, it was confirmed that he can travel to the other worlds via Void Travel.
The same goes for Omega.
Another thing there, is FFXII,Tactics and XIV all sharing the same world.
One good example for multiples games being set in the same Universe would be Team Ninja Games.
Nioh, Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden are all set in the exact same universe.
Once you reach the Top of the Fortress after the 4th Succesor, you get explained everything to you.
The 1st generation Revenant and Projekt Queen were created to get rid of the Aragami, wrecking Havoc.
However almost no one outside of these Gen 1 Revenants (Silva,Mido) know about the horrors or forgotten them duo to Memory Loss, Yakumo being one example here.
Youself are a Gen 2 Revenant, they were mostly made to fight the frenzied Queen.
"Same kind of game world" does not equate same universe.
It just simply means the same style of game, feel, or overarching thematic appeal/concept.
When i first saw the scene with this "Dyous pita" in it, It peaked my curiosiity about it aswell.
It's intriguing to connect the two, and think there's some marvelous backstory that connects them overall, but in the end, it's not uncommon for game studios to re-use assets, or place references or easter-eggs from their other games. It's even taken so far as a marketting tool, rather than anything lore-founding.
We can say it is or is not all we like, but in the end it's just speculation. Neat, awesome, intruiging, "makes sense", but ultimately still speculation.
I would honestly say that the two are not the same world, but they -could- be if the developers wished them to be. The lore could be connected in such a way to make it work.
I see 3 options here:
1: As you said we have to assume the translation here, and your whole point hinges on ONE SINGLE word, the "unconnected", without that single words none of the rest neither deny nor confirm a connection.
2: Somewhere along the line in the development this chance changed
3: They are really really bad at make 2 seperate worlds, the amount and the concreteness of some of these connections are way beyond what you can call mere eastereggs
When a writer/artist/creator is overly attached to a specific concept or idea, whether it be assets, events, places, or even characters, things have a tendancy to leak from one creation to the next. Without feeling things "at home" to your own paracosm, external creations can feel rather empty to you. It can be a symptom of limited creativity, or simply a specific passion towards one of your creations that you don't really wish to just say goodbye to.
The concept of the world being overrun by some otherworldy beast, and the struggle to protect the world from it seems to be a common theme for these designers, and if they wished to maintain that "game world" concept or idea, it's not surprising they might bring in something from an older creation. It's a crossover artifact of a writer, and is a lot more common than one would think.
We can use the previous example of "All final fantasy games are the same universe, just different worlds in the same universe"
So, lets take a look at biggs, wedge, jess, and Cid.
All of these are repeat characters in all of these games. They have identical themes, jobs, careers, roles, everything, yet in each game they all have a different life in that "different world", and most of them die in each game. They are re-used/rehashed assets/concepts, in completely different games, not having anything to do with one another.
This "Dyaus Pita" is the same concept. It may or may not be an aragami, and it may or may not be made of oracle cells. It just simply being there, isn't enough to declare without a doubt that it's the same world, with the same events going on.
In the end - we just don't know for sure.
There's a lot of evidence GE and CV take place on the same world.
There's reason to believe they may not.
Till we get an official word from Bamco, we can only speculate which is the truth.
And no, I do not consider that dev video as an 'official word' - the video is filled with descriptions that were either changed, or are translated badly. Also, there is the possibility the devs may have been keeping a connection a secret to surprise us.