@nekotime how the hell is WILLINGLY supporting a game that we've all spent countless hours enjoying equal to getting bent over and taken advantage of? They aren't stealing the money out of your pockets. It's a kick-starter. They are trying to reach a new audience and expand their product.

引用自 BroQ：

@nekotime how the hell is WILLINGLY supporting a game that we've all spent countless hours enjoying equal to getting bent over and taken advantage of? They aren't stealing the money out of your pockets. It's a kick-starter. They are trying to reach a new audience and expand their product.

Normally a company invests the money they made selling their products into making new products to sell to us. Not sell over 2 million copies at $25 a piece then ask for 50k from a kickstarter, sell the board game for $100 a pop, Kickstarter reaches over 2.2 million which is insanely OVER the amount they asked for, keep the price at $100 a pop anyways and don't offer any new stretch goals for the additional funds received.

Kickstarter abuse has ruined the system for a lot of decent future developers who could really use it to get started. Running a business is about strict financial management and investing earned revenue into future projects which generate more revenue. If 2 million copies at $25 a pop can't afford to product a $50,000 board game (as per the amount asked in the Kickstarter) I think it's justified to criticize.

This is too expensive for me as a student. But definitely will support in the future. hope this board game become something like a monopoly - everlasting !

引用自 BroQ：

@nekotime how the hell is WILLINGLY supporting a game that we've all spent countless hours enjoying equal to getting bent over and taken advantage of? They aren't stealing the money out of your pockets. It's a kick-starter. They are trying to reach a new audience and expand their product.

Sry mate but you really have no idea what you're talking about.

It looks good. How does the robot count the position of the ball? Roll the dice? But not so many friends to play with

引用自 Sekraan：

引用自 GameSmashDash：

I'm going to be honest; I have little to no knowledge. This is kind of what happens when you try to make a physical game for gamers; even seeing some people bring up, "why not add more digital content?"

Knowing the audience for this game; they got lucky on the kickstarter considering the space just so happen to overlap just well enough. Even with WoW fanbase this was the case with their board game.

If I were Slay of the Spire; I would've just made a product separate from the brand or build a digital version of this same idea to please the digital fans.

That's fair. There is a disconnect between the video game and board game spaces, especially with respect to price expectations and how stuff gets funded.

That said, I don't think Kickstarter was a huge gamble. Slay the Spire was inspired by board games - deckbuilders qualify despite the lack of board, it's an imperfect umbrella term - and the fan base has plenty of board game enthusiasts.

Also, there is a digital version of the same idea. It's available for free to play in Tabletop Simulator. The scripting is quite well done. Honestly, they should have led with this announcement - many people here might have been less disappointed to learn that they can play the board game for free with TTS.

引用自 Paintbrush Poltergeist：

Could you correct me if possible and enlighten me as to how the cheapest pledge (Slayers, at £89) is worth it for a board game, "claw pack" and access to the undefined stretch goals (I'm not even going to bother talking about how unwarrented a £100 increase in price for the "Collectors Edition" is for some "Metal coins", larger cardboard box, and what looks to be paper or thin card playmats to be included) when other board games with similar amounts of pieces (Certain versions of Risk have A LOT of pieces and cards) are much cheaper and of equal quality (judging from the images provided on the Kickstarter)?

Whether or not you think the product worthwhile at the price is an entirely separate question from whether this use of Kickstarter is an unethical or unfair or shady business practice.

Kickstarter board games tend to be pricier than stuff that is mass published like Risk because the scale is so much smaller. The complexity of manufacturing and quality of components also adds to the price, though sometimes this is addressed by offering multiple versions: e.g., having intro version with cardboard cut-outs, but nice wooden pieces for those willing to pay more.

I suspect that the discrepancy in price between StS and other card-based games on Kickstarter is the choice to use custom sleeves (only one side is transparent) for all the character cards for the upgrade system. For most games people will buy sleeves separately if they want them.

And what are the sleeves made out of?

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I spent $80 to kickstart a legendary board game with 180 premium wooden printed tiles and 80 custom metal coins: https://gamefound.com/projects/25th-century-games/ra#/section/rewards

Somehow $100 for a few double layered boards, a bunch of standard quality cards and sleeves doesn't feel right at all... but sadly that's just the industry now. Stefan Feld's city board games were kickstarted for $100 and they have even less in them than this.

引用自 buck pucker：

I spent $80 to kickstart a legendary board game with 180 premium wooden printed tiles and 80 custom metal coins: https://gamefound.com/projects/25th-century-games/ra#/section/rewards

Somehow $100 for a few double layered boards, a bunch of standard quality cards and sleeves doesn't feel right at all... but sadly that's just the industry now. Stefan Feld's city board games were kickstarted for $100 and they have even less in them than this.

That's interesting. How did you find your boardgame when you finally got to play it?

Good idea but it's like 5x the price of most board games

Yeah its nice but way overpriced. I would have paid half that price. Its 180 EUR for the complete package. No thanks.

Spanish is out? How many German speakers play StS compared to Spanish speakers?

I'd pay $30, maybe $40, but $100 is a weird price for a board game. Hope the price comes down, because I would absolutely LOVE to play this! Good luck.

This isn't even targetted for rich people, I don't get what kind of people are the target audience for this. Stupid ones? Then the game is too complicated for them tho.
I consider myself quite rich, money is not my problem.
I wouldn't have slightest problem paying 100$ and wouldn't even notice it as an expense, I absolutely love the devs of StS and would support them gladly but I just won't pay 100$ for this product because it is ridiculously overpriced.
The reason people with money have money is because they don't spend too much of it on simple things that are overpriced.
There are 100$ board games out there but these are huge with tens to hundred of figurines, a lot of different boards etc. This board game is of the size of a 30$ maybe 40$ board game but with a price tag of 100$? Pass.
Yes there are 2 millions already "raised" but I honestly think that if this was reasonably priced there would be multiples of that already. The target audience of the game and the price tag just does not overlap that much like this.
This is a product with premium price tag but without premium content from a company that made 1 notable indie game. I simply don't get this, what went wrong here?
It isn't even localized to Czech that has an enormous market for board games (all generations play board games here, from very young age to very old people, we love them and they are basically part of our traditional lifestyle at this point) and most games even from smaller publishers are usually made in Czech too so that's a big downside for me as well.

引用自 dota (verb) - to hate thyself：

Hey, how about create some more actual content instead of just selling your IP to anyone who asks? Guess all the devs who worked on this must have left a long time ago.

All indie game companies are building IPs, not just making games anymore. From FNAF to Cuphead.

Anything that makes money will be milked. And Slay of the Spire has a lot of fans to milk. I'm pretty sure were in the minority here.