Slay the Spire
ucmh Oct 3, 2024 @ 10:27am
Card drawal is not random
I just shuffled my cards into a new draw pile and drew five, and got three burns. In the remaining 19 cards in the draw pile there were a total of three more burns. That's a really unlucky draw, and while not impossibly unlucky, this just keeps happening. I haven't written things down and done the math, so it's admittedly a flimsy observation but getting my hand stacked with negative cards has happened so often by now I'm all but sure it's a flaw.

Check the code please!
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ucmh Oct 8, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
Shuffling a new draw pile... 8 out of 22 were status cards, all 5 I drew were status. Game over.
Doctor Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:22am 
Unfortunately, this can really come down to luck, for I've been in similar situations, and it doesn't draw like that for me. It seems to me you might just have really, really bad luck.
ucmh Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:30am 
I've been playing more since my posts, and I've had many more times where this has happened so if anything my idea has been reinforced. It's specifically about the hands one gets when one shuffles a new draw pile.
Doctor Oct 11, 2024 @ 10:40am 
Unfortunately, this is circumstantial. I can say the exact same, but in the reverse. I have not experienced this. Unless there's code to prove it, this is all speculation.
Spawnling Oct 12, 2024 @ 11:21am 
Cognitive bias?
Take a sheet of paper or text file and write down every good, normal and bad draw you have over a run.

6 burns in a 24 card deck is 25% of your current deck. So you'd expect 25% of your hand to be burns. 1-2 cards. 3 is unlucky but possible.
An odds calculator says 7.2% which is unlucky, but around 1/14, so yea your chances are 1/14 to draw 3 burns each time you reshuffle your deck.
(As a side note, drawing exactly 0 is 20%, 1 is 43% and more than 1 is 36%)
Doctor Oct 12, 2024 @ 11:46am 
Originally posted by Spawnling:
Cognitive bias?
Take a sheet of paper or text file and write down every good, normal and bad draw you have over a run.

6 burns in a 24 card deck is 25% of your current deck. So you'd expect 25% of your hand to be burns. 1-2 cards. 3 is unlucky but possible.
An odds calculator says 7.2% which is unlucky, but around 1/14, so yea your chances are 1/14 to draw 3 burns each time you reshuffle your deck.
(As a side note, drawing exactly 0 is 20%, 1 is 43% and more than 1 is 36%)
You worded how I was thinking but failing to express correctly lol
Like it's more noticeable when something bad happens in comparison to when it works well or neutrally.
ucmh Oct 12, 2024 @ 9:46pm 
I was kinda hoping that the people whose job it is to work on this game would look at it, but maybe I have to do it... We'll see what I choose to do.
Spawnling Oct 13, 2024 @ 5:24am 
Originally posted by ucmh:
I was kinda hoping that the people whose job it is to work on this game would look at it, but maybe I have to do it... We'll see what I choose to do.
There are streamers with multiple thousands of hours of playtime, who tracked every single card draw they had and non of them has found an issue with the rng.
Moppy Nov 9, 2024 @ 11:14am 
The PRNG code has been looked at. Second this game is too old and too well played to have any issues with PRNG. Thirdly, we as a community need to stop complaining about PRNG. This is a problem for the previous generation, which has been fixed in games LONG AGO.

Let me tell you a hilarious story about Spotify's shuffle. People complained the playlist shuffler was broken as it played songs in the same order as on album. They spent a lot of money checking it, and found there was no problem. Sometimes dice just do that. It was all cognitive bias. But they "fixed" it, by making it less random so that it could never play songs in the same order as on the album, and complaints went away.
Last edited by Moppy; Nov 9, 2024 @ 11:17am
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