Did anybody win over the heart?

[lksdfhj]

How is it possible?

[Banzai]

A vast number of people have done so (personally I have with all the characters) but you obviously need to have made an optimised deck with lots of combos/synergy's. You will have to front load some defence every turn to counteract the damage for every card played but otherwise its arguably harder to get there than to actually defeat the Heart. Certainly possible anyway :) Good luck.

[Lavie]

"All of these are A20 + the heart and you can find the proof on YouTube/twitch if you search up the names.

Ironclad: Lifecoach1981 18 streak

Silent: Xecnar 16 streak

Defect: Jorbs/TerrenceMHS 11 streak

Watcher: Merl61 38 streak

Rotating: Jorbs 16 streak"




For myselIf, I never play the Hearth (exception for Achievements)... The game is hard enough for me. Probably later, when I feel that I am "ready" and I will win regularly in A20...
In other words, it is not mandatory to take this option. :-)

P.S. Some players take the option to "restart" fights, which is another way to lower the difficulty.

[LHGreen]

Well, I've beaten the heart on A20 with all 4 characters multiple times, so it definitely is possible, because I'm not exactly fantastic at the game and even I managed it.

Originally posted by Lavie:

P.S. Some players take the option to "restart" fights, which is another way to lower the difficulty.

Yeah, Save and Quit can be helpful for beginners, but honestly, as you play more and get better, it gets less and less helpful as you learn what optimal moves are and you make them more often on your first attempt at a fight. Eventually you know when you just don't have a chance in a fight and don't even bother with it most of the time. Of course, getting that much experience with that aspect of the game requires that you actually use it a lot in the first place, which most players don't do, because they consider it to be cheating (even though the devs themselves don't), rather than a helpful learning tool. So they either take longer (in general, because obviously that doesn't factor in any sort of natural aptitude) to learn that stuff, or learn it in an alternate way, like watching notable players on youtube, or reading guides and the wiki, or talking to people in forums, and things like that.

[mldb88]

Until you learn how to prepare for it, the heart can be brutal. You’re going to want to keep an eye out for tools to help against it throughout a run, even if they don’t necessarily help you in the moment (caltrops, flame barrier, malaise, disarm, static discharge). Your deck need to both be able to scale damage quickly as well as provide solid defense options, and maybe a little card draw/hand manipulation to make sure you can get the cards you need. If you don’t have any, use the shop before the elites to snag any potions that can be a contingency plan (fairy, gamblers brew, energy potion, ghost in a jar, swift potion mostly). Also keep your relics in mind, and if you can grab the bronze scales or torii / tungsten rod you’re already in a good position going into the fight. Also remember block is always applied before the beat of death passive procs, and retaliate damage can shred the heart during its multi-hit.

[Vertibird]

I just defeated heart 10 minutes ago in my first try! It was way too easy for me because of my build. I just spammed blocks, then doubled it until its 999 and body slammed the hell out of the heart

[LHGreen]

Originally posted by Vertibird:

I just defeated heart 10 minutes ago in my first try! It was way too easy for me because of my build. I just spammed blocks, then doubled it until its 999 and body slammed the hell out of the heart :steamlaughcry:

Yeah, sometimes you just get lucky and get builds like that.

[Thulsa ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Doom]

thorn potions and/or caltrops (silent), fire shield (the chad fighter), and the static retaliation (defect) are all very strong against the heart.
good luck

[Vertibird]

Today won again with Defect this time with only lightning orbs. Just collect every power card you can!

[Maestro Rugosa]

The heart is much easier when you have acquired the right relics by defeating all the elites you possibly can. Or saving up your gold and buying them at the markets.

[Cress]

Most heart-capable decks revolve around some sort of combos with card draw and energy gains so you can have infinite/near-infinite turns. There is also a concept of having a small deck so consistency and infinite loops are possible. However, this is not absolutely true in all decks and there are too many possibilities of cards/artifacts to simply list every viable build- and after all, you are at the mercy of RNG so you need to adapt to what is given to you.

The only way to get better is to either read up on the game, watch others play, or just play yourself and learn through trial and error. If you are looking for a good youtuber I suggest Tricky, he's chill and explains his reasoning at all critical moments. I learned a lot from only a couple vids. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQEwaC_qhc-srlCvzhbT8Pw/videos

[Target]

I have dont it with every character, Iron Heart is the hardest and frankly I think he generally has the weakest synergies. (Or maybe I just suck with him) I only managed to beat the heart with him with a defensive Firebeath and evolution deck.

[Target]

Honestly the fight before the heart usually is worse for me then the heart itself. Especially if you are running a deck that needs set up time.

[Cress]

Originally posted by Target:

I have dont it with every character, Iron Heart is the hardest and frankly I think he generally has the weakest synergies. (Or maybe I just suck with him) I only managed to beat the heart with him with a defensive Firebeath and evolution deck.

I used to think Ironclad was the hardest, but he's honestly one of the best/consistent characters other than Watcher. He has amazing sustain from floor 0, his card draw/energy cards are easy to come by and are really good (burning pact, bloodletting, offering, seeing red), Feel no Pain mixed with dozens of strats is an absolutely broken card... love me some Ironclad :)

[shabanotti]

I have played Ironclad the other day, had 97HP, 4x double strength (1 was exhaust) a bunch of str boost cards and good relics. In the last fight against the heart I drew the most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ first hand and I lost. :(

Mind you I'm a newb and this is my first time I reached the heart since I unlocked ascension with first 3 chars.

But I'm sure if I got a bit of a better draw I'd beat it since I had Reaper in my deck (for heal).

Trying since, but having crap luck with cards after fights/shop.

[LHGreen]

Originally posted by boar:

I have played Ironclad the other day, had 97HP, 4x double strength (1 was exhaust) a bunch of str boost cards and good relics. In the last fight against the heart I drew the most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ first hand and I lost. :(

Mind you I'm a newb and this is my first time I reached the heart since I unlocked ascension with first 3 chars.

But I'm sure if I got a bit of a better draw I'd beat it since I had Reaper in my deck (for heal).

Trying since, but having crap luck with cards after fights/shop.

Um, the heart doesn't even attack you until the second turn....