Snecko Eye is the worst boss relic in the game

[Big Ol' Burr]

You can't change my mind.

I would rather Velvet Choker than the sneko turd, holy hell it's so useless.

[HAWAIIANpikachu]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Mega Missingno.:

One bad 5 card hand can end a run too. The question you should be asking is whether Snecko Eye is more likely to kill you than not having Snecko Eye, and statistically the answer is no.

Statistically the answer is yes, because I always seem to get Snecko eye when I already have Runic Pyramid.

[1.2M | Missingno.]

Well don't take it when you have Runic obviously. Every boss relic has to be evaluated in terms of what else you have, that's why you're offered a choice of three.

When I say Snecko is good, I am not saying every deck ever always wants Snecko. If OP had only said "Don't take Snecko when you have Runic" we'd be having a very different conversation right now, but that obviously wasn't the point of this thread.

[HAWAIIANpikachu]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Mega Missingno.:

Well don't take it when you have Runic obviously. Every boss relic has to be evaluated in terms of what else you have, that's why you're offered a choice of three.

When I say Snecko is good, I am not saying every deck ever always wants Snecko. If OP had only said "Don't take Snecko when you have Runic" we'd be having a very different conversation right now, but that obviously wasn't the point of this thread.

very true.

[Cress]

Opprinnelig skrevet av HAWAIIANpikachu:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Mega Missingno.:

Well don't take it when you have Runic obviously. Every boss relic has to be evaluated in terms of what else you have, that's why you're offered a choice of three.

When I say Snecko is good, I am not saying every deck ever always wants Snecko. If OP had only said "Don't take Snecko when you have Runic" we'd be having a very different conversation right now, but that obviously wasn't the point of this thread.

very true.

You take snecko + runic and blame snecko for being bad. Wow. Take literally any other relic at that point, IDGAF if it's dome + broken crown and both are bad for you, there is no worse pick than snecko at that point.

People that are undoubtedly much much better at the game than you stronger disagree with your assessment of snecko, what does that tell you?

[HAWAIIANpikachu]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Cress:

Opprinnelig skrevet av HAWAIIANpikachu:

very true.

You take snecko + runic and blame snecko for being bad. Wow. Take literally any other relic at that point, IDGAF if it's dome + broken crown and both are bad for you, there is no worse pick than snecko at that point.

People that are undoubtedly much much better at the game than you stronger disagree with your assessment of snecko, what does that tell you?

Never said I would pick it, I literally brought up it's anti-syn with a relic I tend to perfer and take a lot and gives a lot more consistency than praising Snecko every turn for good RNG..

I also have a lot of experience with the game, (All 4 A20s, and I have A20'd a modded character just for the extra meme) and the card I tend to play (Silent) typically becomes actively worse with Snecko (73% of her cards are 0-1 costs, so they all have a 50/75% of becoming actively worse to play cost and effectiveness wise). So I would have a very obvious bias against the relic that gives RNG that has a good amount of odds to screw me over. If I was Ironclad, I would tend to take this relic, and in fact this relic is what caused me to win the "one relic" achievement. So I know it has its moments, it's just typically a downgrade for Silent who already gains the benefits of a lot of draw for cheap cards.

[Khor]

Classic sneko thread.
Some people hate it, some people overhype it Praise Sneko

[overmage]

Opprinnelig skrevet av HAWAIIANpikachu:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Mega Missingno.:

One bad 5 card hand can end a run too. The question you should be asking is whether Snecko Eye is more likely to kill you than not having Snecko Eye, and statistically the answer is no.

Statistically the answer is yes, because I always seem to get Snecko eye when I already have Runic Pyramid. :sts_snecko:

snecko and pyramid together are suicide. If you have one do not take the other.

[HAWAIIANpikachu]

Opprinnelig skrevet av overmage:

Opprinnelig skrevet av HAWAIIANpikachu:

Statistically the answer is yes, because I always seem to get Snecko eye when I already have Runic Pyramid.

snecko and pyramid together are suicide. If you have one do not take the other.

that's my point

[Chibi Life]

Tried Snecko eye starting relic Ironclad Ascension 20. Conclusion? Easily beaten. Why? Because of the RNG giving me lots of 0 cost defense cards I was able to stack a lot of defense. Plus it made Barricade more affordable in most cases.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2895492968

[D E X I I I]

Wrong. With some additional energy it can be super powerful.
Had the icecream, so took the eye as 1st boss reward:
https://imgur.com/a/K4imUgM

Opprinnelig skrevet av Neko Time:

Tried Snecko eye starting relic Ironclad Ascension 20. Conclusion? Easily beaten. Why? Because of the RNG giving me lots of 0 cost defense cards I was able to stack a lot of defense. Plus it made Barricade more affordable in most cases.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2895492968

Oi, but it's not beaten without heart kill!

[Chibi Life]

Opprinnelig skrevet av dexz:

Wrong. With some additional energy it can be super powerful.
Had the icecream, so took the eye as 1st boss reward:
https://imgur.com/a/K4imUgM

Opprinnelig skrevet av Neko Time:

Tried Snecko eye starting relic Ironclad Ascension 20. Conclusion? Easily beaten. Why? Because of the RNG giving me lots of 0 cost defense cards I was able to stack a lot of defense. Plus it made Barricade more affordable in most cases.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2895492968

Oi, but it's not beaten without heart kill!

I stopped doing the heart months ago. I'm done with that unbalanced broken piece of garbage. It's not fun for me. I consider it an optional boss for people who hate themselves.

[Hedning]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Neko Time:

I stopped doing the heart months ago. I'm done with that unbalanced broken piece of garbage. It's not fun for me. I consider it an optional boss for people who hate themselves.

I agree grinding to a20 maybe not go for it, but once you are at a20 what's the point of doing an a20 run without going for the boss?

[D E X I I I]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Neko Time:

I stopped doing the heart months ago. I'm done with that unbalanced broken piece of garbage. It's not fun for me. I consider it an optional boss for people who hate themselves.

It's rather ascensions are additional challenges, while collecting keys is significant mechanic and 4th act is important part of the game.

[Cress]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Hedning:

]I agree grinding to a20 maybe not go for it, but once you are at a20 what's the point of doing an a20 run without going for the boss?

Pretty much this. Act 4 is part of the game at that point, failing to kill heart is a failed run.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Neko Time:

I stopped doing the heart months ago. I'm done with that unbalanced broken piece of garbage. It's not fun for me. I consider it an optional boss for people who hate themselves.

Heart is not unbalanced it just requires some scaling damage and good damage mitigation, something you should be able to get in 3 full acts of gathering cards and relics.

It's a SP game after all so you do you... but calling heart unbalanced is just copium.

[overmage]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Neko Time:

Opprinnelig skrevet av dexz:

Wrong. With some additional energy it can be super powerful.
Had the icecream, so took the eye as 1st boss reward:
https://imgur.com/a/K4imUgM


Oi, but it's not beaten without heart kill!

I stopped doing the heart months ago. I'm done with that unbalanced broken piece of garbage. It's not fun for me. I consider it an optional boss for people who hate themselves.

Heart is probably the most straightforward boss in the game. You just need to be able to block both multihits and large hits and scale to kill him within as few turns as possible. He has no power gained on strength gimmick, no statuses outside of the turn 1 debilitate, no countdown for cards played, nothing. Just damage and tons of it. So you build for being able to take a lot of hits and kill as fast as possible. That's it, really. He's essentially a dps / vibe check.