Slay the Spire

Slay the Spire

Drumgirl 2018 年 11 月 17 日 下午 8:59
Extreme difficulty spike?
I'm not sure if it's the new patch or what, but the game has had a MAJOR difficulty spike since the last update. I'm not exactly good, but I can clear it fairly consistently at A0. Now I can barely get THROUGH stage two, let alone even reach stage 3 boss. Why did is it so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard now lol
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Caos Spawn 2018 年 11 月 21 日 上午 12:29 
引用自 〤 MrWorthy
i just don get how you dont heal to full hp before the heart?
i just dont see the point in going to a fight with 27 hp while heart does like 47(maybe even more) damage to you at turn 3
wew lad EPIC

Just don't fight it if you dislike it so much
elonashooter 2018 年 11 月 21 日 上午 10:01 
引用自 Caos Spawn
引用自 〤 MrWorthy
i just don get how you dont heal to full hp before the heart?
i just dont see the point in going to a fight with 27 hp while heart does like 47(maybe even more) damage to you at turn 3
wew lad EPIC

Just don't fight it if you dislike it so much

I mean... it's a legitimate question as to why the ♥♥♥♥ they set up the final act with the campfire at the beginning where it serves almost no purpose.
B the Self 2018 年 11 月 21 日 上午 10:06 
引用自 elonashooter
引用自 Caos Spawn

Just don't fight it if you dislike it so much

I mean... it's a legitimate question as to why the ♥♥♥♥ they set up the final act with the campfire at the beginning where it serves almost no purpose.
THIS
BitterSwede 2018 年 11 月 21 日 下午 2:48 
Aaaand StS forums do what it does best, turn a reasonable discussion into a cesspit of toxicity once again because a few elitists with superiority complex got a number next to their names after playing the game repeatedly and think they are "good" at it and that makes them better than others in every aspect.

Congratulations, 27 posts in 24 hours, most of them just spewing hate for no other reason than to show how much better you are because you have owned the game a bit longer than others.

Not that you're the only ones in the discussion that has, because you're not. Not because you're the only ones in the discussion with a high ascension level, because you're not. But because you're entitled little ♥♥♥♥♥ that likes to hijack threads and derail them into pages upon pages of pure putrid garbage because someone said something you didn't agree with... even though that didn't affect YOUR game at all.

Same as what happened with the discussion about cards, same as what happened with every discussion about every character, same as has happened with any discussion on these forums that has gone on for long enough. As soon as the actually intelligent people have started getting a discussion going, you swoop in and bait people into fighting windmills with you instead.

And then you claim WE are the ones ruining the community?
Dusk_Army 2018 年 11 月 21 日 下午 3:35 
Let it go, BitterSwede. There's not much to be done except continuing the discussion regardless of them.

Speaking of which, any opinion on my damage buff theory? It's very possible I'm remembering wrong, but if there has been some kind of global buff, that would explain a thing or two since that would effectively mean everyone is playing A3 instead of A0.
Zazz 2018 年 11 月 21 日 下午 3:45 
I haven't noticed any difference on A0 tbh, A20 on the other hand... ugh.
Zu 2018 年 11 月 21 日 下午 4:19 
引用自 Dusk_Army
Speaking of which, any opinion on my damage buff theory? It's very possible I'm remembering wrong, but if there has been some kind of global buff, that would explain a thing or two since that would effectively mean everyone is playing A2 instead of A0.
I've been thinking about it but the numbers look right. They're not as high as A2 and bois don't do the things they do at A16, like turn 1 shelled parasite frail or turn 1 chosen hex.

The sorta recent buff to sentries was documented anyhow.

Then I was thinking about fight distributions, but it doesn't seem like any particularly nasty fights show up more often than others either. Would have to actually sit down, go through recent runs, and make a spreadsheet LUL
Solipsist 2018 年 11 月 23 日 下午 12:09 
The elite with the fragment is now more powerful. Most of them have the buff which grants armor every turn, some of them regenerate. It seems its enough to drain resources, particularly health, much faster than before. That leaves you more vulnerable to unlucky draws and such.
Savoyard 2018 年 11 月 23 日 下午 7:10 
引用自 Robo
It feels like the later changes are extremely poorly thought out.

I did not play that much lately (I am ascension 16/17/13) and got back to the game few weeks ago and wanted to do achievements.

Then I did the mistake of unlocking act 4 - whoever thinks this act is fun deserves something bad.

There is no scaling - the boss is silly since A0. The game is supposed to start easy and ramp up, no?
No - you need specific deck to kill the boss, most fun decks are impossible to play or subject to extreme luck. Doable? Yes. Fun? No.
So yeah - maybe they are tuning the game for the top 1%. And the remaining 99% of plebs will never complete it on A0.

And they I came back to the 2 above mentioned achievos - and realised that there is no way how you do it against act 4 (if you make it that far for some weird reason), left right there and never came back.

Also - I found the best way how to deal with the act 4 elite - keep Smoke Bomb for it.

Smoke bomb gives an error message "I'm surrounded!" on the Act 4 elite now. So much for building a deck that's great against the boss and bad against the Shield and Spear. I'm about ready to uninstall and call this game 'completed' for my purposes.
tri-edge 2018 年 11 月 23 日 下午 9:22 
RNG is a huge factor in this game, but i agree. ever sence the new patch i have played over 15 games and i have only won one of em. i always run A5 for a fun run but now i can never win unless im the ironclad
ashem2 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 1:03 
A0 and A20 are not much different. Winning them requires A LOT of luck and some skill. If you have max skill you still need tons of luck to get winning deck. Git gud do not work with this game unfortunatly. Even absolute skill only increase your chances to win, not give you 100% winrate. On other hand some let's players with very low skill but very high luck can win with like 99% winrate. So just deal with it, if you want to play game that require skill/brain - don't pick random/luck games, go play civ 5 or chess or something (though even civ 5 is hardly luck dependent if your skill is close to your opponents)
The seed system, lol. With some seeds you're just ♥♥♥♥♥♥. So it's artificial RNG. Despite the flaws, this game is great to kill time.
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Yriel 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 4:04 
The damage seems very high. I fought the act 3 intangible elite and he did 67 damage in turn two and then 3x15 damage every turn after. How am i supposed to survive that?
I have the feeling they racked up the damage but didn't reflect that on the defensive cards. Even the card "Panic Button" (i know it's bad but still) only bocks 30 points, thats not even half the damage that elite did in turn 2 and it's supposed to be a panic button.
I didn't play for some time but i remebered him being annoying due to being intangible every second turn but aside from that i never thought of him as difficult. Now he is a death sentence if you don't have a 2 round wombo combo card set up.
benj 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 5:17 
+1 to post-patch loss of mojo, I was on A12 before and now the furthest I've gotten on A0 is the heart to 3/4 health. The only way I can explain it is accumulation of recent changes; card changes, tough new enemies like writhing mass, new events like the arena...key collecting and the final act are icing on the cake. Decks are now thoroughly tested in every run. Decks I would have called good a couple of months ago aren't even getting me to act 3 anymore.

It'll be interesting to see where Megacrit goes from here. Part of me wants to scream NERFNAO but another part of me really respects them for having the guts to make the finale so difficult, even with the game as popular as it is. I know how good it's going to feel when I finally do win again.
AshtinPeaks 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 9:24 
引用自 ashem2
A0 and A20 are not much different. Winning them requires A LOT of luck and some skill. If you have max skill you still need tons of luck to get winning deck. Git gud do not work with this game unfortunatly. Even absolute skill only increase your chances to win, not give you 100% winrate. On other hand some let's players with very low skill but very high luck can win with like 99% winrate. So just deal with it, if you want to play game that require skill/brain - don't pick random/luck games, go play civ 5 or chess or something (though even civ 5 is hardly luck dependent if your skill is close to your opponents)

I honestly completely agree with you.

Honestly what I thought was a lot of luck and little skill at first, BUT I have done completely random runs where I would joy win a game, literally rolling dice for choices. Risk vs Reward, path in and card choice matters a ton in this game. Luck is some of this game when you get god tier decks, but overall I think their is a skill aspect people underestimate.

This being until act 4. Act for you need certain types of deck and thud you should not challange the elite and heart if you arnt ready. It's a Brutus battle, but a chllanging final boss. There is no RNG going to screw you with heart (most likely besides maybe card drawn).

Act 4 is that final boss in a game need repeatedly att a ck lol
最后由 AshtinPeaks 编辑于; 2018 年 11 月 24 日 上午 9:25
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