Slay the Spire
Mummel Nov 9, 2018 @ 1:54am
Are bosses chosen by deck?
So I noticed some things and started counting, everytime I build a certain type of deck I almost certainly get the same boss. For instance I get the Champ everytime I build a poison deck. So I tried building poison 6 times and 5 times I had the Champ. Power build with the defect had me have 3 out of 4 times having the Awakend One and discard card draw build with the Silent had me have the Time Eater every single time. Didn't try with other decks yet but you get the picture.

Do I just have horrible luck or is it a game mechanic that you get a boss that will perfectly counter your deck nearly everytime? Do the bosses get choosen depending on which cards you have currently?

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Hogman Nov 9, 2018 @ 3:02am 
I don't know about bosses, but I'm convinced the cards you are offered are based on what's currently in your deck. But opposite to what you're suggesting - they seem to be biased towards favourable cards.
Caos Spawn Nov 9, 2018 @ 3:26am 
I'm not sure but i've had your same conclusion
It may be intended and my way to "counter" this was adding some aspects that would confuse the game, like 1 more power or some 0 cards etc
Mummel Nov 9, 2018 @ 3:29am 
Yeah was considering playing with that idea too and trying to see how many cards it takes to trigger a certain boss. Kind of questionable design choice if that is the case though. Just makes you have the same encounters over and over killing the variety. If you always know what bosses to expect the randomization cuts down eventually. In the end you will always go down one of the same 12 play styles with the same bosses every time. It's not even really hard once you know how to go against the boss but I would just love to see different decks against different bosses. Never once had to fight the donuts with a strength build
Last edited by Mummel; Nov 9, 2018 @ 4:20am
Zu Nov 9, 2018 @ 5:48am 
In short: No.

Replay any seed. Make radically different choices. Everything about the seed will be the same except for the odd event that changed because certain conditions were met like (not) having a curse in your deck.
I got the Champ in my last silent run. Not a single poison card in the deck. It's random.
Mummel Nov 9, 2018 @ 6:17am 
Right forgot the seed thing, right now at 12 champs in a row, just wanna poison some dudes
AshtinPeaks Nov 9, 2018 @ 7:43am 
Originally posted by Zu:
In short: No.

Replay any seed. Make radically different choices. Everything about the seed will be the same except for the odd event that changed because certain conditions were met like (not) having a curse in your deck.

Yep, people think this a lot because a confirmation bias. You tend to notice bad luck more then the regular runs.
BitterSwede Nov 9, 2018 @ 11:53am 
It's most apparent in the daily runs, if you repeat it until you beat it. You will notice a LOT of repetition in the game, regardless of your choices. A different path will generate the same enemies in the same order. A different chest will give the same relic. A different question mark will generate the same event, if the same circumstances occur.

And most of all, regardless of how much you change your own gameplay, the same three bosses will appear.

The seed controls so much more than the layout of the map and the order in which the icons appear. The game is not random, it is arbitrarily generated. There is a slight difference between the two. Arbitrary generation can be repeated, it has a state, it is "saved", predictable to a degree, if you know what the numbers mean (which nobody except the computer does until it has been tested at least once). It's like a coin flip, but the coin is weighed down on one side... The problem is that you don't know which side is weighed down until you've tried flipping it once.
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Date Posted: Nov 9, 2018 @ 1:54am
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