Slay the Spire
doomswell Feb 10, 2018 @ 3:44am
Pummel is Pathetic
2x4 exhaust compared to Sword Boomerang's 3x3 with less rarity and it sticks around.
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Vae Feb 10, 2018 @ 3:57am 
Both scale really well with strength gain, pummel hits 4 times. Upgraded exhume can get it back. By itself without str gain it is indeed not the best card out there.
Amenophys Feb 10, 2018 @ 3:58am 
You don't get why Plummel is absolutely powerful.

It's all about strength decks.

With just 10 strength plummel+ does 60 damage, Sword Boomerang+ only 52.

With 60 strength, plummel+ does 310 damage and SB+ will do only 192. You can see the difference against a Donu.

However Sword Boomerang can somehow split the damage accross multiple enemies, making it more group-attack oriented.
Last edited by Amenophys; Feb 10, 2018 @ 3:59am
doomswell Feb 10, 2018 @ 4:16am 
Originally posted by Amenophys:
It's all about strength decks.
With just 10 strength plummel+ does 60 damage, Sword Boomerang+ only 52.
...Sword Boomerang can ... split the damage accross multiple enemies
I knew it was a matter of Strength but I guess I didn't do the math.
Still, Boomerang is easier to get, reusable and diverse.
ravengage Feb 10, 2018 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by doomswell:
Still, Boomerang is easier to get, reusable and diverse.

That's why if you run a str deck you get both, they're both good str cards.
robofish126 Feb 10, 2018 @ 5:13am 
Self-Exhaust is both a pro and a con. Its a pro in that it allows you to field a useful card without it clogging your deck. Its a con in that you can't rely on it in extended combat.
xanikar Feb 10, 2018 @ 5:20am 
Idk i don't see the exhaust effect as a downside. Infact very much the opposite it's one of the reasons why i can justify myself taking it, if i feel i need that little bit of extra damage or a niche card pick that may go crazy. Worse case is, it's a one time use better than strike card. And it exhaust itself so i may be able to go into an exhaust type deck or have synergy down the road.

In fact i can't justify ever taking sword boomerang since it's highly unpredictiable and has less synergy with cards. And is just over all lack luster even when it does pay off. It gets even worse for boomerang when you compare it to just about any other aoe card.

1 whirlwind completely destroys boomerang in just about every single case. Even a thunderclap is better in my eyes since it can be used for more stable aoe damage and potentially better damage with more mana/vulnerability state that also has synergy with a few relics. And still scales rather well with strength.

At the end of the day i feel boomerang is actually a trap card. Just like i feel armaments can be. Sure if you upgrade it, it can be good. But you waste a slot and an upgrade doing so. Where as if you built your deck right you wouldn't need armaments. And all armaments ever does is buff the much less important cards like strikes or defends. You could get a shrug it off instead or a true grit to thin the deck to make it more consitent in fights. You are always gonna upgrade your most important/key cards in your deck first.
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kebabsoup Feb 10, 2018 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by robofish126:
Self-Exhaust is both a pro and a con. Its a pro in that it allows you to field a useful card without it clogging your deck. Its a con in that you can't rely on it in extended combat.

That is true for opening cards that self-exhaust and that you play early, but because Pommel is more of a finisher move that you use once your strength is all stacked up, it is still going to clog up your deck most of the time anyway. Except if you use it earlier when it's much less efficient.
kebabsoup Feb 10, 2018 @ 6:45am 
Originally posted by Idisdain:
1 whirlwind completely destroys boomerang in just about every single case. Even a thunderclap is better in my eyes since it can be used for more stable aoe damage and potentially better damage with more mana/vulnerability state that also has synergy with a few relics. And still scales rather well with strength.

For AoE, yes Whirlwind wins. But Sword Boomerand is really more a single target attack that has some AoE capabilities. for 1 Energy to benefit 4x from your strength means that it's actually even better than the almighty Heavy blade in terms of damage/energy.
Last edited by kebabsoup; Feb 10, 2018 @ 6:49am
King Smizzy Feb 10, 2018 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Idisdain:
At the end of the day i feel boomerang is actually a trap card.

I agree and disagree. If you already have a good strength deck with multiple sources to increase your strength then sword boomerang can become a 30+ dmg 1 mana card. But on its own without strength or with only a +1 or +2, it sucks. splitting the damage means you dont take down priority targets, and you can even incur thorns damage in the third level. I'd rather have twin strike in most situations. But you dont always get your pick and in the right deck sword boomerang is pretty decent. But its definitely not worth picking at all if you have no strength cards yet.
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