Council of Ghosts

[BunnyGoatee]

Is this event worth taking? (for those of you who don't know about this it is an act 2 event: Lose 50% max hp, and get 5 Apparition. Cost 1, Gain 1 Intangible, Exhaust, Ethreal) I usually don't take this event, but should I? Btw I mostly play silent or defect

[Zu]

Super worth. Up to 5 turns of not needing to block breaks the game at times. I'd only not take it if my defense was already good enough so I get to my scaling damage faster or something.

[BunnyGoatee]

Ok thanks! I wan't really sure because of the etheral so you MUST play it. But after reading you comment I realized i could stack it xD

[..]

Yep, to add, works well with Nightmare, Wraith Form, and Burst as well for Silent. If you play Silent often it's usually worth taking.

[Velrun]

And probably the best one: Echo Form!

[Romain672]

Generally yes. I think I take it 90% of the time.
If your deck need some turn of setup (Defect?), you can use these Intangible for just play what you need.
If your deck can kill things fast, you can finish a fight before running out of Apparition.
If your deck can retain card/upgrade the Intangible (with a relic or with campfire), you can use them at the right moment.
If your deck lack of mitigation, so if you take a lot of damage each fight, you will be able to reduce that damage.

Now, if your deck is slow, or can already won the game, losing 50%hp is a big problem. You just increase your chance to lose because of 2~3 bad draw...

[Iluvatar]

It's amazing if you've got apotheosis (upgrade all of your cards), since you can save the apparitions for whenever the big punishment comes. Just completed my first full clear with ironclad and i can honestly tell that apparitions carried the ♥♥♥♥ out of the run.

[eidolon232]

It is awesome with Echo Form (asuming you have 4 Energy), since you take (almost) not damage when you play the expensive power and for the rest of the game all the other Apparitions last twice as long.
Or when you use it in combination with Static Discharge, you are retaliating for 8-16 damage for every point of damage you take.
Finally it deals with the drawback of Philosopher's Stone untill your deck is fully set up.

[Drecon]

It depends a little bit on your deck but it's generally correct to take it. One exception is when your deck is already doing one specific thing very well, such as a deck that wants to play infinite cards each turn. Generally it's not wise to go for such fringe strategies though so Apparition will often work well for you. I take it more often than not.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by soft skin flab diamond:

vast majority of the time it's not worth taking here is why.

1. it weakens both your early game and late game of a combat here is why.
a. you PAY energy and thus weaken your turns in the early game to gain the intangible.
b. they exhaust in the long run you will not be able to use intangible any more thus weaken your late game aswell.

2. lose half your max hp is totally not worth it most enemies/bosses can 1 shot you if you do that.

As with most of the others in this thread, I strongly disagree.

1. A) And how much energy would you be spending to defend in those turns if you didn't have the intangibles? More, I'd imagine.
B) The only way your late game would be any weaker with them exhausted as it would be without them at all is the lowered max hp. If you have a reasonable set up, you should be able to keep yourself up easily after you run out, thanks to how much damage/setup you were able to do using the intangibility.

2. If you say so. It's almost always been my experience that getting 5 turns to set up means that you don't need to worry too much about your max hp.

Plus there's the combo potential the silent's stuff (burst, wraith form, nightmare), echo form, barricade, etc.

[Orutar]

Originally posted by soft skin flab diamond:

Originally posted by The Fool:

As with most of the others in this thread, I strongly disagree.

1. A) And how much energy would you be spending to defend in those turns if you didn't have the intangibles? More, I'd imagine.
B) The only way your late game would be any weaker with them exhausted as it would be without them at all is the lowered max hp. If you have a reasonable set up, you should be able to keep yourself up easily after you run out, thanks to how much damage/setup you were able to do using the intangibility.

2. If you say so. It's almost always been my experience that getting 5 turns to set up means that you don't need to worry too much about your max hp.

Plus there's the combo potential the silent's stuff (burst, wraith form, nightmare), echo form, barricade, etc.

pfft hahah. you mentioned barricade in the same sentence with wraith form when they counteract each other entirely, and are both countered by lots of enemies whether alone or together. hahaha.

you mentioned silent 'good burst' when his burst is peanuts compared to ironclad's. AND you tried to imply he can have good burst while USING energy to play the intangible cards. hahahaha.

my friedn. we are not on the same level. completely seperate iq levels. most people are not on my level so i don't hold it against you. however, i'm out of here not worth taking my time. i'm a guy with lots of money not much time. stupid chitter chatter, i'll leave that to yall. no wonder there is no other smart people on these forums, they all leaving a bunch of dumb people. i don't hold it against yall. i'm gone though. bye.

This should end in reddit.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Orutar:

This should end in reddit.

Yeah, that's a pretty great post. I feel like I probably shouldn't respond to it because it's deleted (and it may have just been a troll in the first place?), but:

1) 5 turns of essentially not taking damage from enemy attacks - allowing you to build a huge stockpile of block - doesn't seem like a good combo with barricade to you? Okay... and to be clear, "wraith form" is a silent card while barricade is an ironclad card. They would combo negatively if you had both (well, maybe - with entrench and impervious and such it might actually work great), but we're talking about the card "apparition".
2) I was referring to the card "Burst" for the silent which doubles skills, not the basic idea of burst damage.

Oh, his first post is deleted too. Huh.

[Arti_Sel]

Originally posted by The Fool:

Oh, his first post is deleted too. Huh.

You only noticed that now? Pff kid, get on his level.

[Khor]

Lol, it`s for this kind of posts that i keep reading these forums

This probably takes the cake... maybe just after the guy with the manly job

[eidolon232]

Note that Apparition is a common, so it can be very helpful for the Common Sense achievement.

[Velrun]

Originally posted by Arti_Sel:

Originally posted by The Fool:

Oh, his first post is deleted too. Huh.

You only noticed that now? Pff kid, get on his level.

Haha :)