Timelord is easily the worst end boss

[Vineheart01]

Seriously, i hate this guy's design. Virtually every deck i have ended up making i had fun with was a mass carduse deck, either by lots of draws or shivs or whatever. Its the most fun way i find to play this game.
But the timelord hardcounters this so bad i honestly wish i could turn off the cards that cater to high-cards-used-per-turn decks.
The only non-spam decks ive been able to get anywhere with relied almost entirely on a specific relic to function. And even then, they were kinda stale to me.

Timelord shouldnt interrupt your turn. Thats the main issue, im fine with him getting stronger every 12 cards i play but the turn interruption is unbearable. Its gotten to the point where if i see hes the boss i just quit, it is 100% impossible to beat him with a shiv deck (i faced him with a triple accuracy+ shiv deck, still couldnt do enough damage since every 1-2 shivs i played i played 1-2 other cards too)

[CoolDragonZae]

I got to Time Eater with a very efficient poison deck. Was at full health going into the battle.

Had a very close fight and it looked like with my poisons, I would be able to take him out in two more turns, just before he wiped me out.

However, he then used his heal skill and all of my poison got removed that I had spent the entire battle building up, leaving me with no actual way to kill him. I was defeated quickly afterwards.

I respect the card limit and restriction aspects of the fight - those are interesting. But I can't say I was a fan of him removing my poison. I spent the entire game building this deck to revolve around poisoning, only to see my work cancelled out by an abilty beyond my control. It was an unsatisfying and frustrating end to the run.

I'm not sure that it's possible to currently beat this boss with a poison deck without a very specific configuration of cards? The simple fix here of course would be ensuring that the Time Lord doesn't remove the poison when he heals. Or if thematically, he's going back in time to recover some of his HP, maybe he reverts to the amount of poison that he had up until that point instead of all of it?

It's possible that this is just a bug, but I'm not sure that I'm willing to pick up this game again (or at least The Silent) until I know this issue has been addressed. No real point in creating a poison deck if through RNG chance, it's possible to run into an opponent that can almost completely cancel it out.

I'm sure there are very specific card combinations with poison that can kill him before he does this attack. But as a player, this was definitely a frustration point.

[Error404]

Time Eater healing only happens ONCE, heals all debuffs and it heals to 50% life, GIT GUD and plan around it!

Also, The Champ has a weaker form of this, as he removes debuffs on 2nd phase too as well as unlocking Execute, which simply HURTS!

[ZappyDoggo]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Darktenki:

Time Eater healing only happens ONCE, heals all debuffs and it heals to 50% life, GIT GUD and plan around it!

Also, The Champ has a weaker form of this, as he removes debuffs on 2nd phase too as well as unlocking Execute, which simply HURTS!

The Champ is probably the easier of the other 2 Act 2 bosses, but the debuff removing is still a pain.

I honestly thought the Time Eater just heals if hes low on health, I wasn't sure if it was a 1 time thing or not. Good to know though, It's like fighting a weaker version of the Awakened!

[robofish126]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Darktenki:

Time Eater healing only happens ONCE, heals all debuffs and it heals to 50% life, GIT GUD and plan around it!

Hmm is that actually coded? I've never seen him use it more than once but I wasn't sure if that was just because I kill him fast. If so then it'd be wise to bait him into wasting it when he has like 49% life.

[Magpie]

Why even go for shiv decks when you know you can douse anyone who stands in your way with 300+ poison per turn? MELT THE WEAK. BUBBLE THEIR FLESH.

[JokingJames2]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Darktenki:

Time Eater healing only happens ONCE, heals all debuffs and it heals to 50% life, GIT GUD and plan around it!

Git gud and auto-lose if you're playing a poison deck xd
Nice advice

[Aytum]

Opprinnelig skrevet av JokingJames2:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Darktenki:

Time Eater healing only happens ONCE, heals all debuffs and it heals to 50% life, GIT GUD and plan around it!

Git gud and auto-lose if you're playing a poison deck xd
Nice advice

A poison deck can't also have block?

[Tray]

Opprinnelig skrevet av JokingJames2:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Darktenki:

Time Eater healing only happens ONCE, heals all debuffs and it heals to 50% life, GIT GUD and plan around it!

Git gud and auto-lose if you're playing a poison deck xd
Nice advice

Git good and learn that a poison deck can easily kill a boss with a heal mechanic?

Am I doing it right?

[ZappyDoggo]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tray:

Opprinnelig skrevet av JokingJames2:

Git gud and auto-lose if you're playing a poison deck xd
Nice advice

Git good and learn that a poison deck can easily kill a boss with a heal mechanic?

Am I doing it right?

I mean if you get lucky and happen to have another catalyst in hand, I don't think the heal would matter much then If it takes only a turn or 2 for the boss to die.

People keep saying the boss only heals once, and I'm not sure if thats true or not because I stacked on a lot of strength on my next turn as Ironclad, then it only took one hit with Heavy Blade to finish the battle.

[The Avatar]

Let me give a definitive answer: The Timelord only heals once, and it is always the first turn after he starts under 50% health (if your attacks/poison knock him under 50, the NEXT turn he will heal). It is almost always a good idea to bait this and or plan for it. This is doubly true for poison decks. If you can have your poison knock him to just over 50%, then you have two full turns to finish him from there (as your second poison will trigger before his heal). If your poison deck has any kind of burst damage (catalyst, corpse explosion, or even Burst and Bouncing Flask+) that should be a near trivial matter. If your poison deck doesn't (because it's built for more gradual buildup), then you should be coming to the fight with enough defense to withstand the poison clear and then just play cards sparingly (as there is no point to poison/damage beyond 50% until you proc his heal, etc.) so the strength buildup is not too extreme. Timelord really isn't hard if you just play the fight properly and constantly consider whether a card is absolutely worth playing (frequently foregoing some damage to have his timer end at 6/7 is a great idea for example), and can easily be defeated by just about any well-crafted shiv/poison deck. The only case where you are truly hard countered is if your deck is based entirely on an infinite combo (like the two-card dual wield/flash of steel deck).

TL;DR The heal is only once, and always occurs directly after he drops under 50%. Both strong poison archetypes (those with burst poison and those with strong defense) can easily overcome this obstacle with intelligent planning.

[Emmerich]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Vineheart01:

it is 100% impossible to beat him with a shiv deck

Just wanted to follow up on this and say that I just watched someone do just that; beat timekeeper with shivs. They had only one envenom and a terror, no accuracies or anything else. It was a one relic run as well for what it's worth.

[Drecon]

Opprinnelig skrevet av xephosarkeyus:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tray:

People keep saying the boss only heals once, and I'm not sure if thats true or not because I stacked on a lot of strength on my next turn as Ironclad, then it only took one hit with Heavy Blade to finish the battle.

If your deck is fast and consistent enough you can indeed finish Time Eater before he even heals once. It's definitely possible. Not consistently of course, but once in a while you have that great deck that just gets to Limit Break twice into a Double Tap Heavy Blade giant kill.

[Tray]

Opprinnelig skrevet av xephosarkeyus:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tray:

Git good and learn that a poison deck can easily kill a boss with a heal mechanic?

Am I doing it right?

I mean if you get lucky and happen to have another catalyst in hand, I don't think the heal would matter much then If it takes only a turn or 2 for the boss to die.

People keep saying the boss only heals once, and I'm not sure if thats true or not because I stacked on a lot of strength on my next turn as Ironclad, then it only took one hit with Heavy Blade to finish the battle.

Well in a decent poison deck you will probably have a Burst, Bouncing Flask, Catalyst, and if you got lucky a nightmare. As well as you various other posion cards.

As far as I am aware the heal mechanic will only activate once, and only activate once you have dropped the boss down below half health, and it will always heal back to half.

So either you need to have strong enough cards to make sure the second you drop him below half health you can kill him on the following turn. Or if your getting unlucky draws or your deck is lacking the cards you need, you save your poison "burst" till after he activates the heal.

A burst, bouncing flask, Cata combo will get you to 216 posion, but granted that is a stars aligning moment. With a nightmare you can increase your flask count to make the combo much more likely.

Also in a poison focused deck your defenses should be pretty strong compared to other typed of decks so you really should be able to weather the storm until you get a good hand to go off on, or to get you to the healf way mark without burning your important cards.

[Tray]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Drecon:

Opprinnelig skrevet av xephosarkeyus:

If your deck is fast and consistent enough you can indeed finish Time Eater before he even heals once. It's definitely possible. Not consistently of course, but once in a while you have that great deck that just gets to Limit Break twice into a Double Tap Heavy Blade giant kill.

Lies and slander I did not say that!!!!! haha. Hmm looks like the tage are a bit messed up.

[Iczi]

Reading all of this, I'm really glad devs didn't cave in and brick the game making it too easy. When there's no challenge, you immediately lose interest. You can easily compare this to The Binding of Isaac, similar mechanic, but there it's like, at some point you basically break the game by being too powerful and it's like beating a dead body, no point. But with this, I've died so many times with a beautiful deck, because of either greed, or I didn't adjust for the 3rd Boss.

Lil' tip, having trouble with Time Lord as the Silent? Grab one or 2 Malaise and just laugh at the tickling he does, you don't even need a dedicated block deck. And yes, if planned accordingly, you can get a pretty high chance of getting one of those during act 3 (if you haven't done so already before). Just recently saved my Ascension 7 run with a combo deck with 2x Malaise.