The Awakened One...

[Bananasplit]

Is the only boss I never defeated and I think there is a problem with this One.

My Silent was a killer in this run and I had after image, thousand gifts, envemon, noxious fumes, accuracy with lots of shivs and crazy good relics healing me and reducing card costs for each power used, drawing new cards easily, etc...
So I arrive pretty confident at the boss and win the first part of the fight. Then he respawns and now deals 60 dmg+ per turn ?! but In this specific turn I dont have the right defensive cards and all the poison/debuff disappeared from him ofc.
How are we supposed to deal with his insane dps while at the same time trying to kill his 300 hp ?
Am I missing something or this boss is imbalanced ?

[CMDR Shven]

Sounds like you were using a lot of powers, which buff his strength in his first form. Don't use any powers if you can avoid it until he awakens.

[Capernaum]

The general consensus from myself and what I've seen of most of the community is that Awakened One is by far the easiest final boss. I in fact think he needs to be stronger, maybe even much stronger.

By the time you are at the end of the third stage your deck should be able to kill two Bird Cultists without taking much if any damage, even if you are a power deck and hold back your powers. That being said if you somehow actually removed all your Strikes and have only a handful of attacks your deck should definitely have enough block to compensate.

If neither of those are true you probably would've died to either of the other bosses too.

[devnull17]

I managed to beat him the one time I fought him, with a fairly tanky Ironclad deck. That said, I hate it when games decide a boss needs a second, hidden health bar. It totally sucks all the joy out of what should be a real accomplishment. And then when you drop the second health bar, instead of being excited, you're just like, OK, is there any more ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ coming?

[SpearOfLies]

Originally posted by devnull17:

I managed to beat him the one time I fought him, with a fairly tanky Ironclad deck. That said, I hate it when games decide a boss needs a second, hidden health bar. It totally sucks all the joy out of what should be a real accomplishment. And then when you drop the second health bar, instead of being excited, you're just like, OK, is there any more ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ coming?

The second form isn't hidden. The game told you he isn't not awaked yet. People are just too lazy to read. By how you say you hate it, it shouldn't be hard to guess the meaning of not awaked yet.

As long you don't play too many power, even a very weak deck can beat the awakening one. I beat him with a very bad deck that score something around 450-500.

[Chyllstorm]

I had two regen potions, vampire bites, two blurs, upgraded survivor, perfect deck balance with 40+ poison on him... still wasn't possible to block for 25+ every single turn without fail. I literally couldn't have had more block and had enough deck to do damage, and conversely if I had more damaeg, wouldn't have had enough block to get to the end. Never even got to his second phase. You *have* to give players a turn or two to regroup if they don't get a perfect draw every turn- which is guaranteed they won't.

Definitely another area of imbalance in the game. I really don't care to hear from the few know-it-alls that get lucky enough to muddle through with random luck in beating some of the situations the game throws at you where you have no control as a player to overcome even when you planned for it.

This is not a "get good" game after a certain point. This is a luck game.

[Tray]

He should probably attack with hugs and kittens.

It's not like people regularly beat him without crying for a nerf all the time.

[Winner]

Just don't play powers unless it's Barricade in a block deck or Demon Form. Everything else is not nearly worth the extra strength, especially when it keeps it to phase 2 (but not debuffs because balance or something). Instead, try to play them on the turn before it awakens (after you kill it the first time of course) so that it doesn't get the buff.

[OnTheLastCastle]

He sure is a boss. Sigh. Build a powers deck and instant death................ that's a fun way to spend a few hours.

[Zikh]

Awakened one is by far the hardest of the end bosses. It just keeps whacking you with insane dmg, every round. No buffs, no defenses, just dmg, every, damn, round. That's why it's hard.

[Scathe]

Originally posted by zedmail816:

Just don't play powers unless it's Barricade in a block deck or Demon Form. Everything else is not nearly worth the extra strength, especially when it keeps it to phase 2 (but not debuffs because balance or something). Instead, try to play them on the turn before it awakens (after you kill it the first time of course) so that it doesn't get the buff.

actualy there is no reason not to play an upgraded footwork in phase 1, it adds 3block to each card, and he only gains 2damage per attack, at least, before ascensions. I've beaten him before playing two footwork+, one after image, and one noxious fumes+ in phase 1. done similar wins against him multiple times.

I think he is probably the easiest end boss, but they are close enough to each other in difficulty that I wouldnt suggest changes.

[nathaniel]

Originally posted by devnull17:

I managed to beat him the one time I fought him, with a fairly tanky Ironclad deck. That said, I hate it when games decide a boss needs a second, hidden health bar. It totally sucks all the joy out of what should be a real accomplishment. And then when you drop the second health bar, instead of being excited, you're just like, OK, is there any more ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ coming?

i agree, second phases are discouraging. and as for the smart guy who says people are too lazy to read - all i can say is within the context of a game's mechanics and lore, "unawakened" could have lots of meanings. it's a bit of a stretch of comprehension to automatically assume that means a second phase; they just made a lucky guess.

[BaconX]

I started Spire like 2 weeks ago and made a topic about my first victory with vampire, and checking my run history, it was with the Awakened. I've just beaten it twice last night with Watcher A3 and Ironclad A4, and it's not too bad with Watcher with Mental Fortitude and having enough swap card, and Ironclad I was scaling Strength so hard that it didn't really matter, pulled flame barrier or some other Def card, and killed it in like 3 or 4 hits.

I agree though that his last form is kinda.... crazy especially if your deck doesn't have some ratio of defensive cards in it, or you don't have enough damage scaling to outpace it.

[1.2M | Missingno.]

why are y'all bumping threads from 2018

[BaconX]

Originally posted by Festive Missingno.:

why are y'all bumping threads from 2018

Lol I didn't even look at the date, thought this was a new thread. I don't know why the other guy bumped it.