9x4 ≠ 4x9

[Unknown Player]

Nothing big I know but from the intuitive aspect it would be way more logical to write first the number how often the enemy hit and then the amount of damage. I know the tooltip has the right description but it makes a difference when you have thorns or other power cards who depend on the attack counts and I often forget that it's quite the opposite way from what I calculate <3

[Flavorable]

Originally posted by Sie:

Nothing big I know but from the intuitive aspect it would be way more logical to write first the number how often the enemy hit and then the amount of damage. I know the tooltip has the right description but it makes a difference when you have thorns or other power cards who depend on the attack counts and I often forget that it's quit the opposite way from what I calculate <3

I love you for pointing this out, because with cards with Weak or a Relic like Tori (and probably other stuff), it makes a LOT of difference.

[Ringtail♥]

What's so "intuitive" and "logical" in that change? Not one streamer or youtuber so much as mentioned this little detail, same as me i haven't even considered the order in which the numbers where cause they were in as you call it "intuitive" and "logical" order to me.

[Unknown Player]

Originally posted by Ringtail♥:

What's so "intuitive" and "logical" in that change?

welll for me 9x4 is 9 time 4 damage, from the math aspect.
and not 4 time 9 damage.
but well perhaps I'm strange

[twpe]

No. I thought the same way. But then I got used to it.

[Cubittus]

Perhaps just inserting a space would make it more obvious : 9 x4

[SakuraKoi]

I am pretty sure that 9x4=4x9 because of some filthy math rule that also applies to additions...

but seriously, I guess practically there is an argument to be made from petty linquistics where one would read automatically 9 times 4 damage, instead of 9 damage times 4 but there ain't really much basis for thinking either way.

To avoid any possibly confusion, the mere equation has to go and be replaced by...

another one, in this case 36/4 be perfect, for it would always read "36 damage divided into 4 attacks" (to make sense), unless the damage is 0, damage will always be equal or higher than the times of attack, ez to remember, not much to mistake~

[Flavorable]

I'm thinking the best way to make this more logical for those who find it illogical and yet not impact the players who already find it logical.. Change the color of the font of the x4.

[SoM]

9 = 9 damage.
9x4 = 9 damage, times 4.

I'd say it's pretty consistent.

[Jeba]

Originally posted by Sie:

Originally posted by Ringtail♥:

What's so "intuitive" and "logical" in that change?

welll for me 9x4 is 9 time 4 damage, from the math aspect.
and not 4 time 9 damage.
but well perhaps I'm strange

for me 9x4 is clearly 4 times 9 damage. ive seen this same in multiple games

[twpe]

I agree with the idea for a color change of the font. It's more of a quality of life thing.

It just makes it more clear to avoid any possible confusion for new players. After all, it's the damage number that gets affected by strength and weakness. Yes, 9x4 and 4x9 are the exact same thing mathematically speaking. However, a new player might mistake which number is going to be affected by a strength debuff. He might think he can use a 3 energy malaise+ without blocking and take no damage; only to find that wasn't enough energy to negate the 9 base damage the enemy was actually doing per hit.

[Flavorable]

Originally posted by twpe:

I agree with the idea for a color change of the font. It's more of a quality of life thing.

It just makes it more clear to avoid any possible confusion for new players. After all, it's the damage number that gets affected by strength and weakness. Yes, 9x4 and 4x9 are the exact same thing mathematically speaking. However, a new player might mistake which number is going to be affected by a strength debuff. He might think he can use a 3 energy malaise+ without blocking and take no damage; only to find that wasn't enough energy to negate the 9 base damage the enemy was actually doing per hit.

Exactly. I mean, sure, it's all dependent on what you're taught, but changing the color of the font is in no way harmful for anyone and only offers a more clear meaning of the amount of damage done an x amount of time to be able to better strategize your hand.

[Sanity]

I read 9x4 as 9 damage 4 times, so to me it's already intuitive.

But I could see how this could confuse some and seems like a nice compromise to add some flavor to the text (like a space or color the multiplicity)

[Brodeo Clown]

typically when I'm playing I am drinking so a 'h' for hits and 'd' for damage would be appreciated