Spikers and exploders get me every time

[Mandudeguyhim]

I pretty much know im gonna drop alot of health or die on the spikers and exploders on area 3. they buff themselves too quickly and i seem to never be able to drop enough damage in time. tips would be appreciated.

[Zerklor]

Dropping the Exploders first and stacking block against the Spikers made them somewhat bearable. Also, try to hit the Spikers with as much damage as you can in a single hit so that the thorns do not overwelm you. If I have more then one type of enemy I generaly go by the following order: Exploder, Spiker, (3rd place for some other enemy that comes with them). The Pulsers I ignore as much as possible.

[Soldarc]

I agree that they buff up to fast.. Slow decks and burst decks are both screwed.. only a balanced deck has a real chanse when you meat like 2 exploders and 2 spikers in the same encounter

[twpe]

I tend to rush exploders and try to block before the killing blow.

I usually fight spikers passively; only attacking when I block both their attacks and their spikes. If I have a passive means of dealing damage (poison, powers/relics that deal damage when a condition is met, or spike damage of my own via relic or caltrops), then I kill them that way. Spikes only hurt you if you attack directly with an attack card (this includes attacks that hit all enemies and discarding underhanded strike). If you deal damage with a skill card like bouncing flask, then there is no retribution from spikes.

[Mandudeguyhim]

Thanks that helps a bit. still a rough encounter tho...

[milvax]

Yeah I just wiped on those damn spikers they ruined a good run I had. I thought I had them in the bag when I met 2 exploders and 2 spikers with 6 energy and whirlwind. I thought the whirlwind was going to kill all 4 since I had some strength.........I died very quickly LOL

[Error404]

Thorns and non-attack damage seem to work just fine.

As does what people already posted.

A3 monsters requires some tactics to beat imo.

[van the man]

Another really important thing is that the battle ending blow doesn't trigger their effect. If you kill an exploder last, you won't take damage. You also don't take damage for the last hit of the battle on a thorn enemy (doesn't totally make sense but that's how it works).

Just be careful with poison, if you set up all enemies to die on the same turn with poison, and an exploder dies and isn't the last one, you will take the explosion.

AoE attacks do work tho, if you get two exploders weak, then cleave to kill them both, and it ends the battle, you will take no damage.

[Shovel Priest]

Originally posted by van the man:

Another really important thing is that the battle ending blow doesn't trigger their effect. If you kill an exploder last, you won't take damage. You also don't take damage for the last hit of the battle on a thorn enemy (doesn't totally make sense but that's how it works).

Just be careful with poison, if you set up all enemies to die on the same turn with poison, and an exploder dies and isn't the last one, you will take the explosion.

AoE attacks do work tho, if you get two exploders weak, then cleave to kill them both, and it ends the battle, you will take no damage.

I don't think this is true anymore, is it?

[Sinsling]

It might be true for the expoders, but I know I've accidently killed myself on the last hit on an enemy who had thorns due to not playing a defense first.

[Error404]

Originally posted by Sinsling:

It might be true for the expoders, but I know I've accidently killed myself on the last hit on an enemy who had thorns due to not playing a defense first.

You have fast mode on?

Fatal blow(not fatal card) on fast mode wont trigger effect. If one part of a whirlwind only kills 1 or 2 and not all of them, you still get exploded and/or thorns in your face.

[Krampus]

NL is that you in disguise?

[Sinsling]

Originally posted by Darktenki:

Originally posted by Sinsling:

It might be true for the expoders, but I know I've accidently killed myself on the last hit on an enemy who had thorns due to not playing a defense first.

You have fast mode on?

Fatal blow(not fatal card) on fast mode wont trigger effect. If one part of a whirlwind only kills 1 or 2 and not all of them, you still get exploded and/or thorns in your face.

I would have to check but I believe I had 4-6 hp vs 3 thorns and hit twice to kill, taking 3 damage x 2 to kill myself in the process.

[corbet]

kill them quickly and have high damage cards like sunder.

[Sentient_Toaster]

Originally posted by Shovel Priest:

I would have to check but I believe I had 4-6 hp vs 3 thorns and hit twice to kill, taking 3 damage x 2 to kill myself in the process.

Patch 13 included this bit:

If damage type is thorns, then the damage is dealt even if the owner is dead (Spiker/Guardian).

[Sinsling]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

Originally posted by Shovel Priest:

I would have to check but I believe I had 4-6 hp vs 3 thorns and hit twice to kill, taking 3 damage x 2 to kill myself in the process.

Patch 13 included this bit:

If damage type is thorns, then the damage is dealt even if the owner is dead (Spiker/Guardian).

Wrong original poster, but thank you for confirming that I am not yet insane. XD