Worst Relic?

[Lyrin]

Dead Branch seems pretty awful. Like, horrible. Like incredibly bad. Forcibly adding a random card to your hand whenever you exhaust a card? OK... well, it doesn't even cost zero for a turn like Distraction, it's also not guaranteed to be of a certain type like Distraction, it's not guaranteed to be upgraded...

Seems like you're just trading a card you were planning to phase out anyway for a card that might just be dead in your deck, or at least your hand for that turn.

So, is there anything you've found that's worse than Dead Branch?

[Keyen]

Publicado originalmente por Pear:

Dead Branch is good enough in a Shiv generating The Silent deck. Making generated cards cost 0 is straight up broken considering it's possible to get ~6-10 shivs a turn consistently with enough cycle. I'd say a good change would be making them Ethereal though, considering most of the time they just dilute your deck with mediocre cards.

I think the worst is Runic Dodecahedron, that piece of trash never works beyond the first 2-3 fights of a floor unless you're already OP.

I disagree with both your statements.
1) Dead branch is awfully awful with a shiv build. Generating card (which will be ♥♥♥♥ compared to your normal deck) is really bad since you will get less and less shiv (and good cards). If you are against a dazing mob, it's 90% chance to lose.

If i'm runing a shiv build, and i can't help but getting a dead breanch, it's insta abandon run. Because it will be 3x harder and 3x longer.

2) Runic Dodecahedron is situationnal, but if you are defense focused, it's incredibly strong (since you can get one more block per turn, and thus, getting less chance to lose hp). The problem is if you have a curse which remove HP.

[pop pop]

Okay
I take my words back
Runic dome is quite cool. 1 energy every turn is handy and i know the game well enough to not suffer from removed intents.
The search for the worst continues.

The worst relic is cauldron. You cant take all posions that you gain and you usualy already have some with you. The other contestant is the courier. 20% sale in shops is nah but main effect is beyond useless.

[Keyen]

The worst relic, Imo:
-Dead branch (♥♥♥♥ you, I like my shivs)
-Velvet chocker (Used once, NEVER AGAIN).
-Calling bell

[Dicewolf]

I hate the Runic Dome

[Dicewolf]

Publicado originalmente por Keyen:

The worst relic, Imo:
-Dead branch (♥♥♥♥ you, I like my shivs)
-Velvet chocker (Used once, NEVER AGAIN).
-Calling bell

The calling Bell, OMG... it gave me the best stuff.. one round, "Ninja Scroll, Kunai and Shuriken"

[DadDronesOn]

The relic (prayer wheel i think?) that gives you a card when you open a chest. Like, really? Maybe if they changed it to giving a rare card I wouldn't groan every time I see it lol?

[FellowMusicFan]

Runic Dodecahedron for sure. I'd take any Relic over it. It needs repurposed. Like, if above 85% HP gain 1 energy or if below 50% health gain 1 energy. Something akin to that. In its current state I just get upset every single time I get it.

[Keyen]

It's OP on the ironclad. It's good-average on the silent, but if you have enough def, it's amazing.

[GMGOD]

The usefulness of a relic is entirely situational and dependant on both your play style and the nature of your deck. In fact relics like deadbranch and snecko's eye are both bad and good at the same time. Good if you can build your deck around them and bad if you can't. Sweeping statements like "this relic is always bad and this relic is always good" I personally don't place much stock in since I have won with all of the relics mentioned above. Now, I will admit that some relics are always useful, like omamori or vajra, but I have seldom encountered a relic I couldn't use either at the time or if my deck had synergized with it.

[jirow]

Well, I like dead branch.
Getting some usefeul stuff when using shivs is really nice.

Shivstorm on a useless hand + deadbranch is GREEAAAAT

Dead Branch is far, far from a bad relic.

Now, as for the dodecahedron, yea... It sucks.

[5 Bears On Patrol]

Du-Vu doll is the worst. I always have 0 curses. This relic doesn't tempt me to take any

[Pachislot Rockman Ability]

Publicado originalmente por Keyen:

-Velvet chocker (Used once, NEVER AGAIN).

Velvet Choker isn't pure trash but if you aren't being hurt by it you're probably either going to lose anyway or have a very strange deck. Granted, it's BETTER on Ironclad.

Publicado originalmente por 5 Bears On Patrol:

Du-Vu doll is the worst. I always have 0 curses. This relic doesn't tempt me to take any

I don't know what that relic does, but you shouldn't be so opposed to curses if you get something good out of it. As long as it's not Normality most of them aren't actually that bad, discard/exhaust can deal with them in the moment, and you can remove them like normal cards.

[mtgninja]

I agree with the dodecahedron. It feels so bad when you get it when you're half hp on a level.

[AutoMeris]

Relics that proc off exhaust sound bad until you unlock some of the more useful exhaust cards, and I have built reasonably good decks off them. Dead Branch isn't something to build around, but if your exhaust engine works well enough, it could be a fun pickup.

Runic Dome is my vote. Unless you've already trimmed your deck to an unreasonably consistent and lethal combo, losing that level of information is outrageous, especially for that weak of a benefit. Pyramid and Sneko are also terrible, though.

[loneknight]

Dead branch + corruption is a free win with ironclad, if you have other support stuff for corruption (Vanguard) you win even harder.