Worst Relic?

[Lyrin]

Dead Branch seems pretty awful. Like, horrible. Like incredibly bad. Forcibly adding a random card to your hand whenever you exhaust a card? OK... well, it doesn't even cost zero for a turn like Distraction, it's also not guaranteed to be of a certain type like Distraction, it's not guaranteed to be upgraded...

Seems like you're just trading a card you were planning to phase out anyway for a card that might just be dead in your deck, or at least your hand for that turn.

So, is there anything you've found that's worse than Dead Branch?

[mtgninja]

Have you ever double tapped an Fiend Fire with it?

[Pear]

Dead Branch is good enough in a Shiv generating The Silent deck. Making generated cards cost 0 is straight up broken considering it's possible to get ~6-10 shivs a turn consistently with enough cycle. I'd say a good change would be making them Ethereal though, considering most of the time they just dilute your deck with mediocre cards.

I think the worst is Runic Dodecahedron, that piece of trash never works beyond the first 2-3 fights of a floor unless you're already OP.

[Lyrin]

Originally posted by -DI- mtgninja:

Have you ever double tapped an Fiend Fire with it?

I actually haven't. I just feel like getting completely random cards is only good if your card quality is pretty bad and lacks synergy. I don't want a bunch of dead cards.

Originally posted by Pear:

Dead Branch is good enough in a Shiv generating The Silent deck. Making generated cards cost 0 is straight up broken considering it's possible to get ~6-10 shivs a turn consistently with enough cycle. I'd say a good change would be making them Ethereal though, considering most of the time they just dilute your deck with mediocre cards.

I think the worst is Runic Dodecahedron, that piece of trash never works beyond the first 2-3 fights of a floor unless you're already OP.

Good point about the Runic... it's pretty useless. At least it isn't actively harmful though like Dead Branch could be.

[Xuande]

For me, Runic Pyramid. Sure, it can be good in the right sort of decks, acting as a pseudo-Exhaust for bad draws. But I'm almost never making that style of deck, and I'd much rather not lose a card per turn.

[Reya]

Snecko Eye: Only Relic I have found that has no possible use in any build due to it's effect being an invitation for the RNG to screw you over.

[ErekLich]

If you get Snecko Eye early enough you can focus on high-cost cards so that the RNG works in your favor.

But that's a pretty edge case.

[Dabiz]

Originally posted by Scooty Puff Sr.:

Dead Branch seems pretty awful. Like, horrible. Like incredibly bad. Forcibly adding a random card to your hand whenever you exhaust a card? OK... well, it doesn't even cost zero for a turn like Distraction, it's also not guaranteed to be of a certain type like Distraction, it's not guaranteed to be upgraded...

Seems like you're just trading a card you were planning to phase out anyway for a card that might just be dead in your deck, or at least your hand for that turn.

So, is there anything you've found that's worse than Dead Branch?

I had a run earlier today with dead branch, Corruption, Feel no Pain, Barricade and Body Slam, along with plenty of block cards. It generated blocks of 300+ easily. Pretty much one shotted 'time eater'.

Offcourse you can't count on getting an OP combination like that, RNG and all. But when you do, it is so strong to point where one could call it broken.

It's funny how your worst Relic, is the one I really like seeing most of all early game and build my deck around it.

[Lyrin]

That is a lot of pieces to get Dead Branch to be good. How often does it pay off for you?

[Dabiz]

Originally posted by Scooty Puff Sr.:

That is a lot of pieces to get Dead Branch to be good. How often does it pay off for you?

You basically just need dead branch and Corruption. After that I think you are pretty much set. Those other cards aren't that hard to get by.

I just played this kind of deck once now. I got dead branch as a starting relic, and decided to make an exhaust deck. I think there are more combination with dead branch that make an exhaust deck work.

If you get it very early, it shouldnt be to hard to build a solid deck around it, imo.



Im not saying you are wrong btw. In the contrary. I love seeing a game where you can have different aproaches, and still both be right. Be it, you get the oppertunity to get it going.

[Lyrin]

That's actually really cool to hear. I guess I'm glad that it's not universally bad.

[pop pop]

Only because of dead branch and ninja scroll i was able to get infinity and ninja achievements on the same turn.

Dead branch is good in a shiv deck if you have enought deck management. You can chain dead branch procs for realy long. Any additional energy makes it even more insane.

Strategy here is to play any 0 cost exhausting cards first, see what you got and clean up your hand (i mean in-game hand lol) with concentrate or reroll with calculated gamble. This is a strange case where you don't want to upgrade gamble. Self-exhausting part is helpful here. Get choke card and enemy will get destroyed. I killed nemesis on turn 1 and could go further.

Time eater will eat you in no time though.

Worst relic imo is the one that gives 1 energy but you can't see enemy plans. You gain same 1 energy as other boss relics but drawback is bigger.

If you know StS realy well, than velvet choker is worse. Its a self-denying relic. You don't realy need energy if you limited in use of it.

[Don Euclid]

I have to agree with the Shiv decks for dead branch. I just won a game with a DB-shiv combination, and it was amazing. It was kind of a conservative hybrid tho, mixed in some caltrops, leg sweep, had some good defensive artifacts. Last boss was Time Eater and he actually wasn't that hard, which amazed me. The best part about that deck was just the versatility. When you spam shivs and your hand fills up with randoms, it's pretty hard not to end up with something useful to play.

[Rules Of Acquisition]

Spirit poop. No synergy whatsoever.

[Dom]

Dead Branch is amazing with Corruption, leads to literal infinite combos in a high skill deck

[Pachislot Rockman Ability]

Originally posted by Pear:

I think the worst is Runic Dodecahedron, that piece of trash never works beyond the first 2-3 fights of a floor unless you're already OP.

I was gonna go with the tea set that gives 2 energy on the first turn of the fight after a campfire, but yeah, Dodecahedron is garbage.