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Galaxies 2022年4月28日 19時40分
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Performance Issues - Since Rising Tide
Since 'Urban Expanses - New Performance Issues' was closed, making a new discussion.

Ever since Rising Tide, there have been a slew of issues, and roughly 1/3 - 1/4 of the playerbase has been experiencing:
- Intense lag, only around 5fps - 20fps for most people. For a few, this only occurs when in combat, when fighting enemy creatures.
- Input lag. When you hold 'wasd' it takes from .5 seconds to 6 seconds to move your character. For me, it takes over 20 seconds of spamming the F3 button to open the menu, and roughly that same time to hit enter (or to type anything really). Before anyone asks, yes, I did try multiple times to hit the button once and wait.
- STARTGAME errors and missing item errors. This has been a major issue for a *long* time, not just since Rising Tide. So many people have been plagued by this.


If you're getting any of these errors, add them here. If you're experiencing none of these, lucky you.
All of us just want to be able to play this game, I personally have sunk over 1.7k hours into it, and I love it so much, but I'm just not able to play. I know that there've been (and one today) hotfixes that have come out for these issues, but I don't believe that these have fixed the issues for the majority of players. (It might've fixed it for a few).
投稿主: Regalis:
Thank you for all the information on these performance issues! We are indeed investigating the performance issues, and actually already have some optimizations lined up for the next release. These won't fully solve the problems, but address some specific things that were causing heavy lag spikes (for example, AI pathfinding in colonies and the watcher's acid mist).

What makes these problems hard to address is that we still haven't been able to find a clear cause to them, and in fact it could even be that there isn't a clear cause: there's just so much more content and stuff for the CPU to calculate in the game nowadays, that all of it adds up to so much load that it can kill the performance on some systems. We've also been adding new content at quite a fast pace, possibly too fast to the point that we haven't had the time to optimize all of it thoroughly enough. That being said, it's still something we're constantly working on, measuring the game's performance and gradually improving all the small parts that add to the performance usage.

Based on the reports and screenshots of the performance overlay we've gotten, it does seem that there is no single clear cause to the problems, but it appears to be caused by item and character updates taking a long time in total.

It could be that the issues become more severe when using mods or custom subs, or at later stages of the campaign when there's more items and characters around in the sub. If anyone happens to notice that the problems tend to appear when using certain mods or subs, please let us know so we can give those a test and see if there's some specific things causing problems there. Or if you have a campaign save file where the problems are especially severe, sending it to us might also help us. It'd also be useful to know if there's any difference in performance between multiplayer and singleplayer - does the input lag for example occur in both, or just multiplayer?

In any case, I'm sorry for the problems you're having, and hope we can get these issues ironed out as soon. :/
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Comrade Blue の投稿を引用:
Thank you for your honest words. Hopefully I can upgrade my laptop soon. But for now I guess no Barotrauma for me.

Note: Oh and yeah, I did already lower all my settings to the lowest possible.

Try running the game in windowed mode and with a smaller resolution. It could help a lot.
最近の変更はThe Flaming Pikeが行いました; 2022年5月3日 19時34分
WWWSH 2022年5月3日 23時18分 
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Comrade Blue の投稿を引用:
Thank you for your honest words. Hopefully I can upgrade my laptop soon. But for now I guess no Barotrauma for me.

Note: Oh and yeah, I did already lower all my settings to the lowest possible.

Try running the game in windowed mode and with a smaller resolution. It could help a lot.
Hey there, ive tried all actions you posted, and none of them help. Game got laggy after a 5 min gameplay. Please solve it asap, to keep us in game. Pls
WWWSH の投稿を引用:
The Flaming Pike の投稿を引用:

Try running the game in windowed mode and with a smaller resolution. It could help a lot.
Hey there, ive tried all actions you posted, and none of them help. Game got laggy after a 5 min gameplay. Please solve it asap, to keep us in game. Pls

Something you can try is keeping bots and items to a minimum in your game, so only have a skeleton bot crew (or keep multiplayer games to 6 or 8 maximum and one bot only), and sell any materials and items you don't need. I'm sure the devs are still looking into the fps problems, it will just take time to pinpoint the causes (it may be a few).
Indeed strange things are happening, my problems are:
after playing for an hour or 2, barotrauma starts to struggle, keys and mouse movement will register after a couple seconds (or 0.5), do note that it is ONLY barotrauma, my computer is doing completely alright.
another problem being.. i lag in the server lobbies. its not okay to lag in a 2D screen, and that has never, never happened before, i also do not lag in the main menu/settings screen, and when (while in the said lobby menu) i press escape and the esc menu opens, the lag stops. that's really something. other than those 2 issues my game runs kind of stable most of the time.
The Flaming Pike の投稿を引用:
Comrade Blue の投稿を引用:
Thank you for your honest words. Hopefully I can upgrade my laptop soon. But for now I guess no Barotrauma for me.

Note: Oh and yeah, I did already lower all my settings to the lowest possible.

Try running the game in windowed mode and with a smaller resolution. It could help a lot.
tried it, doesn't help, reduced resolution, turned down particle effects to a minimum, shadows too, still does the same thing
Just a reminder: in order to help the developers who may read this thread, please provide your computer specs ( operating system, RAM, graphics card, etc. ). Refer to the Barotrauma Steam store page and compare yours with the recommended specs to make sure you meet the required specs.
Quite a few others are saying their computer specs, so I'll slap mine here:

OS: Windows 10 (64-bit)
Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) Silver 4114 CPU @ 2.20GHz
Memory: 32 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
DirectX: 12
Network: Satellite?
Storage: 2tb~
WWWSH 2022年5月4日 16時27分 
OS: Windows 10 (64-bit)
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 5800
Memory: 16 GB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
Storage: 2tb
OS: Windows 10 (64-bit)
Processor: AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor 4.01 GHz
Memory: 24 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8G
DirectX: 12
Storage: 1tb
OS: Windows 10 64-bit
CPU: Intel Core I5
RAM: 8gb
Graphics: AMD Raden HD 7950
storage: 1,36tb
@The Flaming Pike Just interested, does your GHz have anything to do with being able to run the game well? (I looked it up, Google was useless :steamsad:)
Galaxies の投稿を引用:
@The Flaming Pike Just interested, does your GHz have anything to do with being able to run the game well?

It does. If I would compare a computer to a human body, I'd say motherboards are the nervous system and/or skeleton, the power supply is the heart and graphics cards are muscles. Processors ( the GHz part ) are bit like brains I guess, although hard drives and RAM also have "brain-like" properties. Processors have a pretty big impact on the overall efficiency of a computer and this includes videos games of course.

The Barotrauma store page states that a "Quad Core 3.0 GHz" is recommended. Anything below that may cause performance issues.

If I would take myself as an example, I'm transitioning to a new PC right now but I can play Barotrauma really well with Intel Core i5-2400 CPU 3.10 GHz. I played the game quite a lot last weekend. I never had performance issues even with a thresher swarm and about 10 crewmembers on board, with a couple of hammerheads thrown in there at some point.

I haven't tried playing with bots though - I'm a multiplayer guy. Maybe bots add an additional toll? I've seen a few people here talking about this happening with bots.

To be honest, I'm getting more and more the feeling that this performance issue is more about the game evolving rapidly through updates with a lot of new stuff added in everytime. Barotrauma has deeper mechanics than it used to. It had a visual overhaul, new visual effects, and other additional content that eventually adds more weight to the game file-size-wise. I'm not saying optimization is not possible, but perhaps the difference between minimum and required specs is becoming more visible now.

Yet, some people seemingly have good enough PCs and still have issues. It's very puzzling!

Laptop computers usually come with default graphics cards. Those aren't very strong and can also result in performance issues even for 2D games like Barotrauma.

I've given some tips earlier but I'd like to make a list here for those who have performance issues and want to try a few solutions:

- Make sure all your in-game settings are set to the lowest level. There's this handy guide that can help: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2263054260

- Try switching between view modes: fullscreen and fullscreen windowed may offer different performances, perhaps depending on the graphics cards you're using. If you don't see ameliorations, try windowed mode.

- Make sure your partition ( ex: C:\ ) containing your operating system is never more than 1/3 full. You will notice a computer is much faster when it's rather empty - it's most apparent when you format. My operation system partition is always 1/4 full, I never install anything on it besides OS-related software. All my data is stored on D:\ or following partitions/hard drives. It's a bit unrelated but it's always easier to format that way as well since you can save things you don't want to format on other partitions. GParted is a software that can help you make partitions.

- Install your game on your fastest, "master" hard drive disk if you have more than one. Try installing it on your hard drive containing your operating system and see if you see any changes... A computer will always focus on the "master" hard drive first upon booting, so I'm assuming it does the same while running. It may not do much but maybe it'll help a little.

- If your computer ( and CPU ) is getting old and you have used it regularly, maybe it's time to add new thermal paste to your CPU. Heating can affect a PC's performance over time - not that much, but it can be noticeable. There's a bunch of tutorials on how to apply thermal paste yourself if you want to, but computer repair shops can do that as well of course.
最近の変更はThe Flaming Pikeが行いました; 2022年5月5日 17時24分
Im here for group of 6 players. All of us (with different PC builds) are experiencing fps drops in some level, mostly during bigger fights, for most of us its still playable, but for one of us, from Among the Ancients update up untill now, its completely unplayable.
We all are experiencing STARTGAME errors and missing item errors, again i think from Among the Ancients, maybe even before that up untill now, in the beginning it was almost unplayable, right now, its mostly limited to steam p2p error which can be "fixed" by disconnecting and restarting server between each mission, its playable, but still annoying and were sad that one of us is pretty much just standing there, unable to do anything. Poor man thinks its fault of his PC, but it looks like its not that case. We had no such problems before certain update.

We all love this game, but this problems are keeping us from fully enjoying it, sadly, for most of the time now, we are patiently waiting for the fix. I really hope devs will find the root of this. I would love to jump in again with my crew, with no fear of such issues.
I want to share my observations.
For first:
r5 2600
Asrock b450
16 GB RAM 2999
rtx 3060
Game installed on SSD NVME

I tested game trying to get fps drops (in single, because my friends really tired from input lags and fps drops) and what I saw.
1. Game don't use fully several cores/threads during fps drops - only one thread loaded and... I saw many spikes, and no one get 100%.
2. I noticed first fps drops during campaing after install Enhanced Periscopes upgrades.
3. Game really input lagging if you take pirate mission in late game.
4. When I taked new submarine in the outpost and change on it. I saw 60 fps (Hooray!).
5. When I moved items items from old submarine, fps drop. So I think problem with crafting materials, what can reacts violently when in contact with water or need other special storage conditions. Why I think about this? Because I try to get some fun in abandoned outpost and put in storage container 8 stack of Volatile Fulgurium Fuel Rod. It was really lagging. But after I deconstruct all this fuel rods, I get back 20 fps.
I did all this tests before Urban Expanses while all worked. But now I have new problem - new colonies. Even Fix Perfomance give up there.
PH|Dr.Paranoik の投稿を引用:
I want to share my observations.
For first:
r5 2600
Asrock b450
16 GB RAM 2999
rtx 3060
Game installed on SSD NVME

I tested game trying to get fps drops (in single, because my friends really tired from input lags and fps drops) and what I saw.
1. Game don't use fully several cores/threads during fps drops - only one thread loaded and... I saw many spikes, and no one get 100%.
2. I noticed first fps drops during campaing after install Enhanced Periscopes upgrades.
3. Game really input lagging if you take pirate mission in late game.
4. When I taked new submarine in the outpost and change on it. I saw 60 fps (Hooray!).
5. When I moved items items from old submarine, fps drop. So I think problem with crafting materials, what can reacts violently when in contact with water or need other special storage conditions. Why I think about this? Because I try to get some fun in abandoned outpost and put in storage container 8 stack of Volatile Fulgurium Fuel Rod. It was really lagging. But after I deconstruct all this fuel rods, I get back 20 fps.
I did all this tests before Urban Expanses while all worked. But now I have new problem - new colonies. Even Fix Perfomance give up there.

Fully agree with statement about fps dropping during pirate missions in late game, and if crew takes more than one mission in addition to that (or there are hunting grounds present), its even worse. It also seems from other posts that new colonies also are causing this problem.
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投稿日: 2022年4月28日 19時40分
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