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viranto Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:39pm
Who are the old ones?
Why is there no statement from GW? Is this maybe a faction from 40k?
The old ones was a spacenation which build stargates in the old world. These stargates bring the chaos to the old world and destroy it.
I need to know who are the old ones.
Last edited by viranto; Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:49pm
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Himmelhermelin Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:42pm 
it is rumored they are pretty old!
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Toaster Maximus Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:47pm 
Even though this page is underwork, it does give solid info on who the old ones are and so on

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Ones

That is the best info out there also imho, and who the old ones are can vary form edition to edition and some writers has well.

Enjoy the read
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Toby Larone Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:48pm 
We know very little we have a few names from the lizardmen army books.
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Mr. Wiggles Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:52pm 
Np warhammer fantasy and 40k are different settings. Games workshop started with Warhammer fantasy, but they had some copyrights problems (for example they had/have a beef with marvel for malekith) and so they decided to create a new serie and they took inspiration from fantasy.
Warhammer 40k old ones were at war with necrons, and the warp did not exist before their extinction, warp explosion was caused by eldars after the war in heaven (old ones vs necrons). Warhammer 40k old ones never met chaos gods, because they did not exist yet.
Fantasy old ones were a technological advanced, space faring civilization. They moved between worlds thank to gates a là "stargate". Maybe fantasy world/planet was a laboratory, the old ones tried to create psichic race to balance chaos and end it. But this is not sure. Anyway, the polar gates collapsed, chaos poured into the world and the old ones disappeared.
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Xhal Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:53pm 
They are called the ancients in our galaxy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_(Stargate)
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Toaster Maximus Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by Mr.Wiggles:
Np warhammer fantasy and 40k are different settings. Games workshop started with Warhammer fantasy, but they had some copyrights problems (for example they had/have a beef with marvel for malekith) and so they decided to create a new serie and they took inspiration from fantasy.
Warhammer 40k old ones were at war with necrons, and the warp did not exist before their extinction, warp explosion was caused by eldars after the war in heaven (old ones vs necrons). Warhammer 40k old ones never met chaos gods, because they did not exist yet.
Fantasy old ones were a technological advanced, space faring civilization. They moved through worlds thank to gates a là "stargate". Maybe fantasy world/planet was a laboratory, the old ones tried to create psichic race to balance chaos and end it. But this is not sure. Anyway, the polar gates collapsed, chaos poured into the world and the old ones disappeared.
Still sad that they never finished making ogres, that was going to be their masterpiece among the races they made...but vanished before gifting them with brain power equal to their strength and toughness
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Mr. Wiggles Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:
Originally posted by Mr.Wiggles:
Np warhammer fantasy and 40k are different settings. Games workshop started with Warhammer fantasy, but they had some copyrights problems (for example they had/have a beef with marvel for malekith) and so they decided to create a new serie and they took inspiration from fantasy.
Warhammer 40k old ones were at war with necrons, and the warp did not exist before their extinction, warp explosion was caused by eldars after the war in heaven (old ones vs necrons). Warhammer 40k old ones never met chaos gods, because they did not exist yet.
Fantasy old ones were a technological advanced, space faring civilization. They moved through worlds thank to gates a là "stargate". Maybe fantasy world/planet was a laboratory, the old ones tried to create psichic race to balance chaos and end it. But this is not sure. Anyway, the polar gates collapsed, chaos poured into the world and the old ones disappeared.
Still sad that they never finished making ogres, that was going to be their masterpiece among the races they made...but vanished before gifting them with brain power equal to their strength and toughness
These are rumors tho
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Toaster Maximus Oct 30, 2018 @ 1:59pm 
Originally posted by Mr.Wiggles:
Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:
Still sad that they never finished making ogres, that was going to be their masterpiece among the races they made...but vanished before gifting them with brain power equal to their strength and toughness
These are rumors tho
True everything about the old ones is rumor more or less.
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peremptor Oct 30, 2018 @ 2:02pm 
From what I've read they are kinda similar to the slann but more frogalicious.
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A.Pot Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:07pm 
The are basically this ancient and super advanced alien civilization that created or uplifted many lifeforms in the Warhammer Fantasy world such as Humans, Elves and Dwarfs. They were served by the Lizardmen, especially the Slann but something happened and the magic gates they use malfunctioned and Chaos entered the world.

Now we know nothing of what happened to them. Were they truly wiped out or are they still out there? There are also numerous implications in the Warhammer Lore that the Old Ones are one and the same with the gods of many cultures such as the Elves and the Tomb Kings while the Lizardmen make it clear that their gods are indeed the Old Ones.
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Wh♂♂par Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by viranto:
Why is there no statement from GW? Is this maybe a faction from 40k?
The old ones was a spacenation which build stargates in the old world. These stargates bring the chaos to the old world and destroy it.
I need to know who are the old ones.
It's material for continuous discussion and theory-crafting. And showing such (omni-)potent beings would make them lose their most distinctive feature: the mystical shroud around their existence. It's actually for the better, despite me wanting to know more aswell, that you don't know more.
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Duckhkiin Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by ite:
it is rumored they are pretty old!
Not too old thought, because then they would be the very old ones
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Magic_Codfish Oct 30, 2018 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Xhal:
They are called the ancients in our galaxy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_(Stargate)

Alterans you ignorant plebe!!!!

Sorry i love stargate....
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Toaster Maximus Oct 30, 2018 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by peremptor:
From what I've read they are kinda similar to the slann but more frogalicious.
Also a lot of their tech was made for five digets unlike a lot of the lizardmen
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Maschinengewehr Oct 30, 2018 @ 10:46pm 
Originally posted by Mr.Wiggles:
Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:
Still sad that they never finished making ogres, that was going to be their masterpiece among the races they made...but vanished before gifting them with brain power equal to their strength and toughness
These are rumors tho

No I'm pretty sure that is the Ogres' origin story. They were the last sentient race created by the Old Ones.
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