New shotguns

[Imperial Guardsman]

I didn't expect anything and I was still disappointed. KSG is just a pump with more ammo. KS-23 is just a cheap shotgun that theoretically does more damage, but it's pointless in doing so because shotguns are already lethal anyway.

[Bullet4Justice]

yeah... waiting for so long for an update and then just getting shotguns is somewhat disappointing but it's what it's, hopefully the new map is good though.

[phrog]

i dont understand why they bother updating this game, seems like a wasted resource

[The roast is real]

What shotgunners do is shoot, kill, reload, repeat. You almost never use the 8 shells in the tube, so the KSG is basically an M870 but more expensive and useless.

The only thing that would make them different from the existing shotguns is decreasing pump speed (faster fire-rate) for the KS-23 and making the KSG able to use two ammo types so those 2 tubes are actually useful for something.

[The roast is real]

Originally posted by Bullet4Justice:

yeah... waiting for so long for an update and then just getting shotguns is somewhat disappointing but it's what it's, hopefully the new map is good though.

I mean, people really wanted more shotguns since we used to have only 2, but we were expecting something actually exciting like semi-autos or maybe faster pump actions, not M870/TOZ reskins.

[Robin ;3 (she/her)]

underwhelming as ♥♥♥♥.. why the ♥♥♥♥ people asked for these things over new gunner weapons i don't know..
A shotgun that holds 3 rounds and takes a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ year to reload, and what this guy said

Originally posted by The roast is real:

What shotgunners do is shoot, kill, reload, repeat. You almost never use the 8 shells in the tube, so the KSG is basically an M870 but more expensive and useless.

[BigThickYoshi]

This game is about as close to dead as it can get at this point. 2 shotguns for months and months of waiting. Wonder how many people work in the company anymore, 5, 6, 7?

[Ash//Fox]

Well.. what were you expecting? Dragon's Breath wall penetrating AP tiberium rounds? The KSG is a real shotgun chambered in 12 gauge like the already existing shotguns.

[Can 'o' 🅱️eer]

Dunno, KSG is a good thingy for me, might be worth starting to run slugs again for it. But reload time is ew. They shoulda explained how to change tubes though, or sticked with simple firemodes being replaced by 1st tube and 2nd. It is stronger in damage values compared to M870/ТОЗ, as it has increased bullet velocity
КС-23 is meh, slow in all terms possible. But spread seem to be much different compared to other shotties, also it might be just me, but it seem to gib easier. I'm waiting to see people use that 23mm as it was designed to, and by that I mean shoot some choppers down.
Operation Glasshouse? More like Operation Reload grip to me.

[Sgt Jigglebelly]

I'm sort of stunned the KS23 is not a secondary weapon. Like someone stated above, the 12ga shotguns are extremely lethal in their intended range as is, so having one that might be slightly more deadly with a smaller magazine and slow to reload just seems like it will never be used once the novelty wears off.

But if it was a secondary, it would be totally bad@$$ to have an 870 main and a ks23 secondary and whip that thing out when your 870 runs dry.

[[OG] Speed Weed]

Originally posted by The roast is real:

Originally posted by Bullet4Justice:

yeah... waiting for so long for an update and then just getting shotguns is somewhat disappointing but it's what it's, hopefully the new map is good though.

I mean, people really wanted more shotguns since we used to have only 2, but we were expecting something actually exciting like semi-autos or maybe faster pump actions, not M870/TOZ reskins.

auto shotguns wont be added because of muh balancing

[Nul1fy]

man this community crys more than the tf2 community

[Buzzerker]

lmao, try the community servers with mods, there are tons of weapons and tons of attachements, even skins in some. I do not know WHY the DEVELOPERS OF THIS GAME, cannot do better. More maps too. More insurgents, MORE MORE MORE.

[KekecDrekec]

Originally posted by The roast is real:

Originally posted by Bullet4Justice:

yeah... waiting for so long for an update and then just getting shotguns is somewhat disappointing but it's what it's, hopefully the new map is good though.

I mean, people really wanted more shotguns since we used to have only 2, but we were expecting something actually exciting like semi-autos or maybe faster pump actions, not M870/TOZ reskins.

The devs specified that they won't add semi-autos or automatic ones since there would be a big issue balancing the game.

[The roast is real]

I just noticed, they also nerfed the existing shotguns fire rate. Now you can't spam the the left click to pump a little faster.

[North]

Originally posted by Imperial Guardsman:

I didn't expect anything and I was still disappointed. KSG is just a pump with more ammo. KS-23 is just a cheap shotgun that theoretically does more damage, but it's pointless in doing so because shotguns are already lethal anyway.

this

shotguns are shoot pump shoot pump, theres recoil.. that's pretty much it
now im getting sniped across the map by ksg flechette users like its 2018-19 all over again