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Daniel Oct 20, 2024 @ 1:18pm
Is the company good? Looking for multiplayer games that can have funny moments and bugs
Hi, not sure if I should buy Insurgency: Sandstorm/Insurgency after looking at reviews, does it support bad company practices? Or are there some other games you folks recommend?


Best wishes!
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Originally posted by ุ:
i may have less hours than some people in this particular release, partially because i took a very long break from this a long time ago due to the very issues i'll get in to in a moment, but i've been playing the insurgency franchise since the first mod came out, and honestly this is a really good game, because the core formula of insurgency is great, BUT, really big but, the developers are kinda like an absent father that went to go get cigarettes years ago and never came back. this game is less polished, less fleshed out, and overall to me feels like a less finished experience than the original standalone game. it's got performance issues (stuttering for me) that have been around for years, it has non-game breaking bugs everywhere, mostly cosmetic like animations breaking. and the ai is kinda ♥♥♥♥.

worst of all there are actually game breaking bugs still present after years of being known in this game, and the devs are silent because of the aforementioned absence. i've only crashed once or twice on this return to the game, so like a month or two maybe, but the main game breaking bug i can think of, and the reason i'm on the forums, is that i just made the mistake of purchasing the gold edition because it was over 60% off, and none of the dlc has unlocked for me ingame, even a day later, even though i definitely own it. apparently this has been a known issue for years, since at least 2021 but probably earlier, and the devs have said ♥♥♥♥ all about it and it's still a problem. if i cant get the dlc to unlock i'll have to refund it because that's obviously bs.

don't get me wrong there's lots this game does right, the art direction is great, the graphics are good, though as it is running on UE4, are starting to show their age, gameplay is great but that's just because the insurgency formula is great, sounds are great, tone and atmosphere are great, gore and ragdolls are great, weapon animations and models are excellent, the gunplay is one of the things i come back for, the fire support is amazing both artistically and functionally, there are lots of reasons to enjoy the game and i do still enjoy it both in pvp and pve.

that being said though, really, if it wasnt for the fact that i've been playing insurgency since the very beginning, when i stopped playing this game a long time ago, i'd have never returned, because it's just an inferior release to the previous games i'm afraid. as someone who's loved these games since inception, i would love to recommend buying this game and trying out this very unique series wholeheartedly, but honestly in the state it's in, with the devs it has, i cant really do that.

if you do get it, and can look past those things, you'll have a great time. pvp can be a little sweaty, but overall it's not too bad, especially in more casual modes like TDM. in pve on the other hand, you'll occasionally encounter some random tryhard idiot that has a little piss baby manchild meltdown, loudly professing his complete idiocy and penis size insecurities like a pissed off howler monkey in gamechat because he thinks anyone on this earth should give half of a ♥♥♥♥ about winning vs bots on THIS GAME of all titles, at 3AM while everyone is half asleep and stoned no less, but, overall, in 99% of cases pve is a very chill experience and an enjoyable timewaster where you can use whatever loadout you want, call in fire support and watch the limbs fly in the distance, and play at whatever pace suits your team. it has at least enough difficulty to keep you engaged and occasionally allow for some fun teamwork, but dont expect to be particularly challenged by it, it's a game i like to play stoned because as i mentioned, the ai is kinda ass and i can more or less relax unless i'm trying to get a high score or something..

but otherwise, if those things will bother you, and rightfully so, as i said the only reason i can kinda sorta look past those things and keep coming back to this game years and years later is my history with this series, if it wasn't for that, well, yeah. i wouldn't blame you for making that call, at all, even if it is sad to me as someone who has really loved this series for a long time and would like more people to be able to enjoy it too...
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aK Oct 20, 2024 @ 3:27pm 
arma 3 has the best bugs imo
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Daniel Oct 21, 2024 @ 3:50am 
thank you!
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Stikikas Oct 21, 2024 @ 5:56am 
Yes, this game has plenty of funny moments as well as bugs that have been around for so long, the playerbase basically accepts them as features lol. There's no other game like Insurgency to me. But, wait for a sale and try it then if you're skeptical!
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aK Oct 21, 2024 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by Stikikas:
Yes, this game has plenty of funny moments as well as bugs that have been around for so long, the playerbase basically accepts them as features lol. There's no other game like Insurgency to me. But, wait for a sale and try it then if you're skeptical!

like the smoke bug? or the switch weapon bug? or the other variant of the same bug? very fun especially when you die to it in a push game on wave 0, or as the last man standing on firefight.

unfortunately arma has no such game deciding bugs, i don't even know why they made the weapons mechanics so flawless.
Last edited by aK; Oct 21, 2024 @ 6:47am
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Daniel Oct 21, 2024 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Stikikas:
Yes, this game has plenty of funny moments as well as bugs that have been around for so long, the playerbase basically accepts them as features lol. There's no other game like Insurgency to me. But, wait for a sale and try it then if you're skeptical!
Thank you! About the new owner company is the company really bad, or was it a bit of a mix of stuff that happend? if you or someone knows
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Daniel Oct 21, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
Experiencing funny wtfurniture moments and using voice chat is something I'd like
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Daniel Oct 21, 2024 @ 1:40pm 
Originally posted by aK:
Originally posted by Stikikas:
Yes, this game has plenty of funny moments as well as bugs that have been around for so long, the playerbase basically accepts them as features lol. There's no other game like Insurgency to me. But, wait for a sale and try it then if you're skeptical!

like the smoke bug? or the switch weapon bug? or the other variant of the same bug? very fun especially when you die to it in a push game on wave 0, or as the last man standing on firefight.

unfortunately arma has no such game deciding bugs, i don't even know why they made the weapons mechanics so flawless.

Played some arma 3 today, not much fun this time (have not played enough to experience a lot, and I need to voicechat actively),
is Insurgency Sandstorm fun without anyone else in a call, or is it normally more like standard gameplay? I shouldn't get ideas about the game from those funny moment videos either hehe
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Daniel Oct 21, 2024 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by Daniel:
Originally posted by aK:

like the smoke bug? or the switch weapon bug? or the other variant of the same bug? very fun especially when you die to it in a push game on wave 0, or as the last man standing on firefight.

unfortunately arma has no such game deciding bugs, i don't even know why they made the weapons mechanics so flawless.

Played some arma 3 today, not much fun this time (have not played enough to experience a lot, and I need to voicechat actively),
is Insurgency Sandstorm fun without anyone else in a call, or is it normally more like standard gameplay? I shouldn't get ideas about the game from those funny moment videos either hehe
Although someone with a dj outfit piloted a helicopter while playing music, YEAH!
Last edited by Daniel; Oct 22, 2024 @ 3:19am
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aK Oct 22, 2024 @ 4:58am 
Originally posted by Daniel:
Originally posted by Daniel:

Played some arma 3 today, not much fun this time (have not played enough to experience a lot, and I need to voicechat actively),
is Insurgency Sandstorm fun without anyone else in a call, or is it normally more like standard gameplay? I shouldn't get ideas about the game from those funny moment videos either hehe
Although someone with a dj outfit piloted a helicopter while playing music, YEAH!

so u played KOTH kindergarten. honestly the worst gamemode in arma but understandably popular since it resembles battlefield. these days people just play it for nostalgia since older KOTH versions were more hardcore/barebones no bs with no "nerfing/balance"

you can use proximity voicechat in both games and need none of it in both games if you know what you're doing. if you're into RP and stuff there are public life servers but i never found them fun idk, also private communities that offer varied types of gameplay in both casual and milsim.

arma has unlimited gamemodes but for public who just wanna click once and get into a game obviously only a few major ones would be popular.
Last edited by aK; Oct 22, 2024 @ 5:45am
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aK Oct 22, 2024 @ 5:40am 
you mentioned "bugs" as something fun which i cleared up earlier, ins sandstorm doesn't have any 'fun' bugs, mostly just weapon handling ones and see through smokes which are simply there for frustration.
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Kilt Oct 22, 2024 @ 11:53am 
Bad practices have been ongoing with this game for a long time.


Game breaking bugs still present after years, company transparency about this game resembling a stone brick, community isn't being listened to aside from community managers who seem to be the only people trying to keep something afloat, nickle diming with dumb cosmetics in attempt to trick the few casual new players to buy them.


What you see in the game is what you get and it's even worse when you start to have hundreds of hours on record so you'll begin to see the bs in game. (I have 1,6k hours)

Certainly not worth the full price so if it's on sale then yea you can get few laughs out of it but this is just something to keep in mind.
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Daniel Oct 23, 2024 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by aK:
Originally posted by Daniel:
Although someone with a dj outfit piloted a helicopter while playing music, YEAH!

so u played KOTH kindergarten. honestly the worst gamemode in arma but understandably popular since it resembles battlefield. these days people just play it for nostalgia since older KOTH versions were more hardcore/barebones no bs with no "nerfing/balance"

you can use proximity voicechat in both games and need none of it in both games if you know what you're doing. if you're into RP and stuff there are public life servers but i never found them fun idk, also private communities that offer varied types of gameplay in both casual and milsim.

arma has unlimited gamemodes but for public who just wanna click once and get into a game obviously only a few major ones would be popular.
Thank you so much! :D
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Daniel Oct 23, 2024 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by aK:
you mentioned "bugs" as something fun which i cleared up earlier, ins sandstorm doesn't have any 'fun' bugs, mostly just weapon handling ones and see through smokes which are simply there for frustration.

Agh okay, thank you!
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Daniel Oct 23, 2024 @ 11:42am 
Originally posted by Kilt:
Bad practices have been ongoing with this game for a long time.


Game breaking bugs still present after years, company transparency about this game resembling a stone brick, community isn't being listened to aside from community managers who seem to be the only people trying to keep something afloat, nickle diming with dumb cosmetics in attempt to trick the few casual new players to buy them.


What you see in the game is what you get and it's even worse when you start to have hundreds of hours on record so you'll begin to see the bs in game. (I have 1,6k hours)

Certainly not worth the full price so if it's on sale then yea you can get few laughs out of it but this is just something to keep in mind.

Okay, thank you!
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Daniel Oct 23, 2024 @ 11:43am 
I think it's better I try something else for now, also if people are really good at the game in most servers.

Thanks for all the info! :D
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