Ins 2014 is still better than Sandstorm.

[Rapskuchen]

Remember when we didn't have terrible voice acting, cringy cosmetics, bad maps, terrible modding support, floaty movement and dirty attempts of making the game more casual?

Good days.

[F0X_3PT]

If I remember? I still play that mf game.
The mods.
I like sandstorm but I don’t want it to became so much ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ casual…

[Arthur von Tule]

You can say whatever you want about Sandstorm, but voice acting is brilliant.

[Arc]

Originally posted by Austrian_Paint3r:

Remember when we didn't have terrible voice acting, cringy cosmetics, bad maps, terrible modding support, floaty movement and dirty attempts of making the game more casual?

Good days.

Remember when Steam workshop was hooked to Steam Cloud, when Alpha testers got mad at devs about comp all the time, when players used "bad maps" argument just as much, when workshop was littered by cringy mods, when it caused several showstoppers for server operators, when community went full on tantrum when an anti-cheat was implemented, when server admins got mad because of an updates all the time, or when some folks complained about "unnecessary" 64bit client to comply with Apple ?

Do you also remember a great game that died off simply by community bleed-out ?

Like, ins is good, but you are holding it as this holy grail that it never was.

[-ExiLe`]

Well the old game did alot of things better, but same for this game, plus alot of cool new features.

Both have their pros/cons.

But yes, I don’t like how they casualize things with updates, instead of improving upon the core selling points (the things that make this game unique).

[TayLord]

Originally posted by Austrian_Paint3r:

Remember when we didn't have terrible voice acting, cringy cosmetics, bad maps, terrible modding support, floaty movement and dirty attempts of making the game more casual?

Good days.

But the bots were as dumb as a pile of rocks. My first love for sandstorm was from how intelligent and varied the bots were. Admittedly, they still frequently do dumb things, but nothing like ins2. Theres a reason most community servers turned ins2 into a horde shootout that you could still hold your own in with a smoke grenade and pistol. Sandstorm is at least 3x tougher than ins2.

[Zug Zug]

Originally posted by ImTimK:

Well the old game did alot of things better, but same for this game, plus alot of cool new features.

Both have their pros/cons.

But yes, I don’t like how they casualize things with updates, instead of improving upon the core selling points (the things that make this game unique).

source doesn't do ''ALOT'' of things better than sandstorm, the few things that it does better can be counted on 1 hand.

Sandstorm is objectively a better version in almost every single ways than source, ask a person that has never played source or sandstorm to play both and give a review, sandstorm will always have a better review because the game IS better.

Stop clinging to nostalgia, source is good, but sandstorm is infinitely better at alot more things

[Rapskuchen]

Originally posted by Physical manifestation of cancer:

Originally posted by ImTimK:

Well the old game did alot of things better, but same for this game, plus alot of cool new features.

Both have their pros/cons.

But yes, I don’t like how they casualize things with updates, instead of improving upon the core selling points (the things that make this game unique).

source doesn't do ''ALOT'' of things better than sandstorm, the few things that it does better can be counted on 1 hand.

Sandstorm is objectively a better version in almost every single ways than source, ask a person that has never played source or sandstorm to play both and give a review, sandstorm will always have a better review because the game IS better.

Stop clinging to nostalgia, source is good, but sandstorm is infinitely better at alot more things

INS 2014 is better in all the things I brought up. What is Sandstorm better at? Well, we have character customization (although that contains a lot of junk), more candy to the eye, better sound design, minor gameplay improvements like checking ammo (although I prefered when you still had to calculate the remaining ammunition), more weapons. Speaking of counting on one hand lmao.

I know it's probably too much expected from a diehard fanboy, but maybe the reason for why many people don't like Sandstorm is because they expected a general improvement of INS 2014? In this regard, Sandstorm completely failed.

[Zug Zug]

Originally posted by Austrian_Paint3r:

Originally posted by Physical manifestation of cancer:

source doesn't do ''ALOT'' of things better than sandstorm, the few things that it does better can be counted on 1 hand.

Sandstorm is objectively a better version in almost every single ways than source, ask a person that has never played source or sandstorm to play both and give a review, sandstorm will always have a better review because the game IS better.

Stop clinging to nostalgia, source is good, but sandstorm is infinitely better at alot more things

INS 2014 is better in all the things I brought up. What is Sandstorm better at? Well, we have character customization (although that contains a lot of junk), more candy to the eye, better sound design, minor gameplay improvements like checking ammo (although I prefered when you still had to calculate the remaining ammunition), more weapons. Speaking of counting on one hand lmao.

I know it's probably too much expected from a diehard fanboy, but maybe the reason for why many people don't like Sandstorm is because they expected a general improvement of INS 2014? In this regard, Sandstorm completely failed.

How

[-ExiLe`]

Originally posted by Physical manifestation of cancer:

Originally posted by ImTimK:

Well the old game did alot of things better, but same for this game, plus alot of cool new features.

Both have their pros/cons.

But yes, I don’t like how they casualize things with updates, instead of improving upon the core selling points (the things that make this game unique).

source doesn't do ''ALOT'' of things better than sandstorm, the few things that it does better can be counted on 1 hand.

Sandstorm is objectively a better version in almost every single ways than source, ask a person that has never played source or sandstorm to play both and give a review, sandstorm will always have a better review because the game IS better.

Stop clinging to nostalgia, source is good, but sandstorm is infinitely better at alot more things

I haven't even told you my opinion of how these games stack up, so it's a bit odd you already come to the conclusion that I'm "clinging to nostalgia".

I can list a gigantic list of pros and cons but it really doesn't matter how that objectively stacks up quantity wise. Because while 1 single feature can be very important for person A, feature 2+3+4+5 can be more important to person B. Comparing these things is like comparing apples to oranges so you always end up getting in a subjective discussion.

[LunaStellae]

INS 14 is overrated in my opinion (and YES I played INS 14). I like sandstorm much more (checking ammo in mag, more weapons and attachments, better gameplay in my opinion and sound (yes I like voice acting in this game) are only some reasons why I like Sandstorm more). Sure its little bit more casual but this is probably not NWI fault but publisher fault because they want money.

[TayLord]

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

Sure its little bit more casual but this is probably not NWI fault but publisher fault because they want money.

A fan of both, but sandstorm is far more realistic and less casual in my opinion. By casual are you referring to the fact that not all shots are insta kills? Because that's more realistic to me and more difficult. In 2014, you could shoot 7 bots in the foot and kill them all in a single room before theyd have a chance to turn to face you. Sandstorm requires actually aiming for lethal shots. In sandstorm, the 3rd bot (or 1st of they're already looking at you) wil get you.

[LunaStellae]

Originally posted by LittleTaylors:

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

Sure its little bit more casual but this is probably not NWI fault but publisher fault because they want money.

A fan of both, but sandstorm is far more realistic and less casual in my opinion. By casual are you referring to the fact that not all shots are insta kills? Because that's more realistic to me and more difficult. In 2014, you could shoot 7 bots in the foot and kill them all in a single room before theyd have a chance to turn to face you. Sandstorm requires actually aiming for lethal shots. In sandstorm, the 3rd bot (or 1st of they're already looking at you) wil get you.

I said "little bit more casual" because INS14 is boring in my opinion. Sandstorm with more weapons, character customization and in my opinion better gameplay is less boring for casual players.

[FINAL_Bₒₛₛ]

Voice acting have more production value and immersion in Sandstorm.

[кят Ruff]

I have played Insurgency since the old mod - Insurgency beats Sandstorm is almost every way. Sandstorm sound is horrible, I'm sure the mix is wrong. Very hard to tell where shots are coming from, footsteps are hit and miss. UE4 just burns my eyes whereas Source is crystal clear and still looks good today. They cant even get smokes right in Sandstorm.

[a_walking_dead]

I've played both for a fair amount of time, and I can say for sure that at least for me, Sandstorm is better.