Squad vs Insurgency Sandstorm

[FeaR]

In the past, many people asked about Squad and at the time, never played.
With some play time with Squad now i can put some points with what is good or not if you wanna change games...

If you are a ''casual'' player that wanna ''fight'', dont even touch Squad.

The game is RIDICULOUSLY slow in every single option that you can think.

The best servers usually needs a good amount of time just to join because they live full with 20+ players trying to enter.

AFTER that...
You choose your class (or at least try) because some classes are almost impossible to play. Snipers are one of that classes. You have TWO (yes, 2 snipers) for each team with 50 players each...

Well, after choosing a class that you usually dont want, because is what left, you join the server... Then you have to wait FULL 2 minutes just to start riding with some vehicle...
After that, depending the map you probally end in some fighting point withn 5 to TEN minutes, when you have some sort of ''checkpoint'' called HAB... Something like a mini spawn bunker.

Only then the game really start to get some ''pace'', but still, dont spect a lot.
Since the maps are huge, you dont move fast, die fast, need some time (sometimes 90s) just to respawn people are VERY alert moving around avoiding to die.

And somewhat thats the fun part.
Since the game is VERY slow, you dont have basically ZERO information on your screen (less than Insurgency), when you get some good spot that matches your cammo (you dont choose that), you feel the immersion... The good point of the game.

The recoil is even higher than Sandstorm, you dont have much to customize weapons and play with what you got... Somewhat rewarding.

The only thing special is the feel, the immersion and how tatical you need to be to stay alive. That being said, it´s the ONLY really good thing about the game.

It´s stupid how much time you spend moving around waiting to get somewhere.
Usually i watch some videos and so on until the truck ends in the first ''construction spot to make a HAB''.

Not to mention, sometimes you move like 10 minutes and die for someone in a bush.
Sometimes you get a good spot, kill, like 10 guys, get some ''space'' for your team and so on...

[@gork is this true]

Quick gaming - sandstorm
Better firefights and teamplay - Squad

[Cole]

Both games are ass. But at least Squad's development is still alive unlike this game.

[FeaR]

Originally posted by Flamethrower:

Insurgency sandstorm isn't even relatively like squad, its like trying to compare a banana to a orange.

That is not a comparission. I just put some points about the Squad for other guys that also have interest in other games with more or less the same ''feel'' of Insurgency.

Both have some ''hardocore'' gameplay, very far from what you usually encounter with more popular games like COD (specially Warzone), Battlefield and others.

[FeaR]

Originally posted by Newsflash Buddy:

Quick gaming - sandstorm
Better firefights and teamplay - Squad

Not sure about the firefights or teamplay...
It´s more satisfying to kill the guys because the game itself feels more imersive like i said, but at the same time, it´s a bit strange... The imersion comes out a big map, less information, people sneaking around and those things that makes that game somewhat special...

But at the same time you have some ''problems''.
First off all is the supression system.... Was a bit stupid in my opinion (and maybe im was right because they changed it). With a few bullets, in some close firefight works well (very well), but sustained supression just makes your screen darker and darker until you arent able to do ANYTHING decent. Sounds is also a mix with good and bad things... Usually it´s good, but they arent very ''detailed''.

Some games also are almost endless.
Some games have a good action, some games you try to find some fights and kill 2 guys in a match with 40 minutes, lol.

Teamplay is IMPOSSIBLE to judge.
Yes you can have a good squad, do good things and so on, but the whole team have 50 players... THAT IS A LOT to call ''teamplay''. Some matches are very close, being my closest a 4/0 (only 4 tickets of diference), but i also played games like 230-0.

[FeaR]

Originally posted by Cole:

Both games are ass. But at least Squad's development is still alive unlike this game.

I like both games, but you are right about the Squad receiving more atention from their dev´s.

[Dub U]

Squad is very different to INS in my opinion. Squad relies very heavily on coordinated efforts of individuals, squads, the commander, the team as a whole. INS encourages team play but the game isn't based entirely on movement and actions of cohesive squads.

Having a good team consisting of objective oriented squads makes for some really good matches. A nice ebb and flow of squads moving to different parts of the map, setting up FOBs, having more teammates spawn in different locations, and move onto objectives is something that INS doesn't have and isn't designed around.

To me, INS is just a more "tactical" version of COD. It's a lot of individuals doing their own thing and teamwork is more or less secondary unless you're a veteran player who knows what they're doing and has a similarly minded team.

[Mountain King]

Complaining about the lack of sniper slots means you are probably a non-contributing noob in both games.