Weapon Tier List (Thoughts/discussion)

[sgt_bon_jovi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLU7LPSFnc

[Eleni]

everything is good. (Only welrod is useless)

[Bazingarrey]

So many good weapons yet it gets nerfed by crybabies

[sgt_bon_jovi]

Originally posted by Bazingarrey:

So many good weapons yet it gets nerfed by crybabies

I think alot of the gunner nerfs should be reverted

[Electric Wizard]

This tier list can go into the trash. This guy doesn't know what the f­u­c­k­ he's talking about.

[Zeno]

Originally posted by electricwizard:

This tier list can go into the trash. This guy doesn't know what the f­u­c­k­ he's talking about.

Harsh way to put it but true.

AKM is " trading " because it has a lower rate of fire? Because you play that thing in semi fire most of the time and full auto when you have learnt to control it. Its a cheap and effective weapon which many advanced experienced players use.

Many more flaws with this tier list, but then it is his personal opinion / thought on it..so.. I guess everyone would put this differently.

[LunaStellae]

Originally posted by electricwizard:

This tier list can go into the trash. This guy doesn't know what the f­u­c­k­ he's talking about.

True lol. All *normal* Pistols in D, Honey Badger in S, M14 EBR, M110 and SVD in C, M16A2 in C but M16A4 in A (Yes M16A4 is better than M16A2 because attachments but not that much) AKM in C?. Yes this is his opinion but ehhh... also M240 in A (Yes M240 in my opinion is best LMG but LMGs recoil is high for every LMG).

[sgt_bon_jovi]

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

Originally posted by electricwizard:

This tier list can go into the trash. This guy doesn't know what the f­u­c­k­ he's talking about.

True lol. All *normal* Pistols in D, Honey Badger in S, M14 EBR, M110 and SVD in C, M16A2 in C but M16A4 in A (Yes M16A4 is better than M16A2 because attachments but not that much) AKM in C?. Yes this is his opinion but ehhh... also M240 in A (Yes M240 in my opinion is best LMG but LMGs recoil is high for every LMG).

Did you listen to any of the reasons WHY those weapons are placed where they are or did you just skip to the end of the video.

[Can 'o' 🅱️eer]

I see no reason to have a tier-list for weapons in Sandstorm lmao
Lemme put it simpler:
SS: FAL, СВД, Mk14, FAMAS
F: Every other option
This won't change till NWI won't get rid of meta

[LunaStellae]

Originally posted by James Hetfield:

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

True lol. All *normal* Pistols in D, Honey Badger in S, M14 EBR, M110 and SVD in C, M16A2 in C but M16A4 in A (Yes M16A4 is better than M16A2 because attachments but not that much) AKM in C?. Yes this is his opinion but ehhh... also M240 in A (Yes M240 in my opinion is best LMG but LMGs recoil is high for every LMG).

Did you listen to any of the reasons WHY those weapons are placed where they are or did you just skip to the end of the video.

Yes I watched it. And sniper rifles are not made for CQB.

[sgt_bon_jovi]

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

Originally posted by James Hetfield:

Did you listen to any of the reasons WHY those weapons are placed where they are or did you just skip to the end of the video.

Yes I watched it. And sniper rifles are not made for CQB.

So you just proved my point, thats why some of those weapons are in C tier. And weapons like Tavor,M4 and M16A4 are in A tier. Because they can perform at all ranges, short medium and long.

[Bazingarrey]

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

Originally posted by James Hetfield:

Did you listen to any of the reasons WHY those weapons are placed where they are or did you just skip to the end of the video.

Yes I watched it. And sniper rifles are not made for CQB.

Originally posted by electricwizard:

This tier list can go into the trash. This guy doesn't know what the f­u­c­k­ he's talking about.

You guys do realise this guy played like 1900 hours in Sandstorm and 500 hours in the previous game? His arguments are pretty reasonable, ARs are the meta. The dude plays like a god. https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198033222610/games/?tab=all

[Fed]

Mostly agree, only a small handful I'd say should be shifted up or down a row, otherwise mostly seems logical from a "meta" point of view. High damage/ROF weapons towards on top, low damage/ROF towards the bottom.

The main gun placements I'd disagree with (if we're ignoring the price) is the UZI, sterling and M3. These SMG's are so bad I would never be like "yeah, these are a weapon I could find a situation to use these in!". Their damage and ROF is so pathetic even some rifles in single fire mode can beat these things a lot of the times in CQB

Oh also, Welrod belongs in A+ tier

[-ExiLe`]

Originally posted by Bazingarrey:

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

Yes I watched it. And sniper rifles are not made for CQB.

Originally posted by electricwizard:

This tier list can go into the trash. This guy doesn't know what the f­u­c­k­ he's talking about.

You guys do realise this guy played like 1900 hours in Sandstorm and 500 hours in the previous game? His arguments are pretty reasonable, ARs are the meta. The dude plays like a god. https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198033222610

Yep, he's an A tier player himself. Anyone criticizing him like is rather clueless.

But some of his reasoning is still flawed I feel. Like these examples don't make much sense:

- AK74 in A, Alpha AK in B and AKM in C?

- M240 in A and PKM/M249 in C?

- M16A4 in but AUG in B?

- SVD/MK14 in C but Scar-H in B?

[LunaStellae]

Originally posted by James Hetfield:

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

Yes I watched it. And sniper rifles are not made for CQB.

So you just proved my point, thats why some of those weapons are in C tier. And weapons like Tavor,M4 and M16A4 are in A tier. Because they can perform at all ranges, short medium and long.

Yeah this make sense. My bad (but still MK14 and AKM in C)

[sgt_bon_jovi]

Originally posted by Just a USEC:

Originally posted by James Hetfield:

So you just proved my point, thats why some of those weapons are in C tier. And weapons like Tavor,M4 and M16A4 are in A tier. Because they can perform at all ranges, short medium and long.

Yeah this make sense. My bad (but still MK14 and AKM in C)

Well its pretty simple, MK14 dosent get much optics, has no extended mag and the irons arnt that good. AKM is good, BUT theres better aks in the game to choose from.