German Equipment

[Schindler's Fist™]

So why does Security get the G36 but Insurgents get the MG3? So which is NWI, are German army weapons an Insurgent thing or a Security thing?

[Arthur von Tule]

MG3 is an older weapon meaning that Insurgent could've get it for cheap on a black market or something and G36 is newer, meaning Security is directly supplied by it from Western forces.

[hobbicon]

Both Parkistan and Turkey are license holders.

[Schindler's Fist™]

hobbicon původně napsal:

Both Parkistan and Turkey are license holders.

So you’re saying it would be really easy for a private security contractor to purchase one

[Slowpork]

Schindler's Fist™ původně napsal:

hobbicon původně napsal:

Both Parkistan and Turkey are license holders.

So you’re saying it would be really easy for a private security contractor to purchase one

Why though? There are much better alternatives to MG3 in the XXI century.

[JtDarth]

Potato Friend původně napsal:

Patrick McLaren původně napsal:

MG3 is an older weapon meaning that Insurgent could've get it for cheap on a black market or something and G36 is newer, meaning Security is directly supplied by it from Western forces.

The version of the G3 in the game is outfitted with green polymer furniture and has only been around for a decade from what I can tell. I found a picture of German soldiers carrying both G3s and G36s on the wikipedia page for the G3 rifle.

Seems strange that insurgents have access to a modern German battle rifle, but are still using the mp5a2 from the 1960's. The devs could slap some wood furniture on the rifle to make it more consistant with the mp5, or better yet, make 2 versions of the weapon so both sides can use it.

You are talking about the G3a3, everyone else is talking about the G36K and the MG3.

G3a3 is a battle rifle that is security exclusive, last I checked, with the FAL as counterpart for insurgents.

The G36K is an 'assault rifle' that is security exclusive.

The MG3 is a LMG/GPMG that is insurgent exclusive, and is effectively a 'modernized' MG34/MG42 style gun.

[Potato Friend]

JtDarth původně napsal:

Potato Friend původně napsal:

The version of the G3 in the game is outfitted with green polymer furniture and has only been around for a decade from what I can tell. I found a picture of German soldiers carrying both G3s and G36s on the wikipedia page for the G3 rifle.

Seems strange that insurgents have access to a modern German battle rifle, but are still using the mp5a2 from the 1960's. The devs could slap some wood furniture on the rifle to make it more consistant with the mp5, or better yet, make 2 versions of the weapon so both sides can use it.

You are talking about the G3a3, everyone else is talking about the G36K and the MG3.

G3a3 is a battle rifle that is security exclusive, last I checked, with the FAL as counterpart for insurgents.

The G36K is an 'assault rifle' that is security exclusive.

The MG3 is a LMG/GPMG that is insurgent exclusive, and is effectively a 'modernized' MG34/MG42 style gun.

Lmao, I just saw G3 and was very confused. I checked, and you're right.

[Swaghetti Yolonese]

The MG3 is manufactured in Pakistan these days. The German Army is trying to replace the MG3 with the MG4 (5.56mm) since 1997 (Infantry of the future (haha) programm) and the MG5 (7.62mm) lately. There are some remaining MG3`s in the German Army but most of them don´t work reliable anymore because the replacement parts are manufactured in pakistan too.

The MG3 is quite a chunky piece of equipment and chews through ammo quickly. So in order to be used effectivly it needs at least 2 men to operate (One shooting and one feeding ammo). Therefore it´s not really suitable to use it in this independent operater/contracter setting the Security faction is set in.
The Insurgents on the other side have easy access to weapons from pakistan and are said to be badly trained (using the MG wrong).

[Schindler's Fist™]

JtDarth původně napsal:

Potato Friend původně napsal:

The version of the G3 in the game is outfitted with green polymer furniture and has only been around for a decade from what I can tell. I found a picture of German soldiers carrying both G3s and G36s on the wikipedia page for the G3 rifle.

Seems strange that insurgents have access to a modern German battle rifle, but are still using the mp5a2 from the 1960's. The devs could slap some wood furniture on the rifle to make it more consistant with the mp5, or better yet, make 2 versions of the weapon so both sides can use it.

You are talking about the G3a3, everyone else is talking about the G36K and the MG3.

G3a3 is a battle rifle that is security exclusive, last I checked, with the FAL as counterpart for insurgents.

The G36K is an 'assault rifle' that is security exclusive.

The MG3 is a LMG/GPMG that is insurgent exclusive, and is effectively a 'modernized' MG34/MG42 style gun.

You’re right, I actually totally forgot about the G3. So Security gets the G3 and G36 and german camo patterns but not the MG3. Makes total sense. Solid logic. Good job devs.

[JtDarth]

Schindler's Fist™ původně napsal:

JtDarth původně napsal:

You are talking about the G3a3, everyone else is talking about the G36K and the MG3.

G3a3 is a battle rifle that is security exclusive, last I checked, with the FAL as counterpart for insurgents.

The G36K is an 'assault rifle' that is security exclusive.

The MG3 is a LMG/GPMG that is insurgent exclusive, and is effectively a 'modernized' MG34/MG42 style gun.

You’re right, I actually totally forgot about the G3. So Security gets the G3 and G36 and german camo patterns but not the MG3. Makes total sense. Solid logic. Good job devs.

I mean, considering that the MG3 basically has to function as a crew-served weapon due to it's rate of fire and the problems that causes (ammo use, barrel changing), and that IRL it saw heavy use with middle eastern militaries and as a result would be easy to access for insurgents, makes sense for it to be used by the insurgents, while the security forces are using more modern designs that are easier to operate and require less maintenance.


I don't know why you have this 'it was made by germans, therefore security should have it' delusion, but it really makes no sense.

[Vogel]

Speaking of German weapons I'm still hoping the MP5K and MP 40 will make a return to this series.

Enjoyed using both of those SMG's in the previous Ins game.

[zombiecrc]

The Insurgents get the MG3 because of Abu Hajaar.