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Point of the M14?
What does the M14 have over the Mk 17/SCAR-H for the Advisor? Same ammo and damage with higher projectile velocity (and I guess better range?)... but costing lots more points and having much higher recoil.

Is there any situation you'd choose the M14 over the Mk 17?
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Sean Sep 11, 2019 @ 10:42pm 
For me it'd be the rate of fire, but it would waste a lot more ammo than the Mk17.
Anisies Sep 11, 2019 @ 10:46pm 
if I remember correctly the M14 one shots to body against no armor and light armor while the MK17 always 2 shots to body. The only advantages the Mk17 has over the M14 really is that it's more controllable in full auto and the extended magazine albeit the full auto can be kind a solved with a quick foregrip point spend. Hope that answers your question
AgentHotel Sep 11, 2019 @ 10:50pm 
It's basically a DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle) with full-auto capability. Plus, on default advisors have access to SBRs (Short-barreled Rifles) for breacher & DMRs for marksman (Without the restriction of laser sights unlike marksman in PvP), which makes the role quite versatile for various tasks.
Coma-Toast Sep 11, 2019 @ 10:58pm 
It shoots fast for a 7.62 rifle, so you have extra assurance the guy you're shooting at is dead and I'd pick it over the 2 body shot SCAR-H
Maki Nishikino Sep 11, 2019 @ 11:10pm 
It has practically nil recoil or more appropriately it's very easy to control.
Last edited by Maki Nishikino; Sep 11, 2019 @ 11:11pm
ユーミ (Banned) Sep 11, 2019 @ 11:46pm 
M14EBR reliably kills better than scar-H for me.
Like it oneshots and two shots more frequently

Scar-h i need usually 2-3 or sometimes 4.

Dunno if its intended or ♥♥♥♥♥♥ server netcode eating my bullet but still, its more reliable. So i use it.
:partyhat: Sep 11, 2019 @ 11:47pm 
The point of the m14 is to kill commies at 600 yards and also be able to magdump charging commies at point blank range.
Because there are no obvious commies in the game, it is not 'in meta' although it has higher damage, penetration, and rate of fire than the mk17 or g3. I use it for style points, without magnification. I also wish the inevitable last guy alive missing shots with an m24 would use an m14 instead.
ttv.LinkyPoo Sep 12, 2019 @ 12:21am 
The mk17 is really bad for horizontal recoil and fire rate.

The Mk14 is the best gun in the game and people should be glad it is only on the sniper class in casual game modes.

In comp, everyone uses the Mk14, SVD or FAL.
Originally posted by デスーメタルです:
M14EBR reliably kills better than scar-H for me.
Like it oneshots and two shots more frequently

Scar-h i need usually 2-3 or sometimes 4.

Dunno if its intended or ♥♥♥♥♥♥ server netcode eating my bullet but still, its more reliable. So i use it.


I agree
aG| Wardog Sep 12, 2019 @ 1:44pm 
It’s the counterpart to the SVD. It’s not as reliable for one shots as the SVD, but it’s more capable of them than the MK17 is. It’s main advantages over the SVD are a larger mag, higher fire rate and auto capability.

The MK17 is in a weird spot imo. It’s not really as good as the G3A3 or FAL, but it is cheaper, and it’s not a bad gun in its own right.
nonex1stent Sep 12, 2019 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Wardog:
It’s the counterpart to the SVD. It’s not as reliable for one shots as the SVD, but it’s more capable of them than the MK17 is. It’s main advantages over the SVD are a larger mag, higher fire rate and auto capability.

The MK17 is in a weird spot imo. It’s not really as good as the G3A3 or FAL, but it is cheaper, and it’s not a bad gun in its own right.
I think it points better at close range than the Mk14, and penetrates what walls need to be penetrated. Mk14 every time for defending though
Fed Sep 12, 2019 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by Wistful Emolga™ -TPF-:
What does the M14 have over the Mk 17/SCAR-H for the Advisor? Same ammo and damage with higher projectile velocity (and I guess better range?)... but costing lots more points and having much higher recoil.

Is there any situation you'd choose the M14 over the Mk 17?
M14's projectile speed is greater, has the ability to 1 shot (SCAR can't 1 shot minus headshots) against certain armour and looks/sounds cooler :lunar2019coolpig:

SCAR has less recoil per shot, much more controllable recoil on full auto, can reload faster and can have extended mags unlike M14 :lunar2019piginablanket:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1821530443
To give an idea on the damage between them :lunar2019grinningpig:
Last edited by Fed; Sep 12, 2019 @ 2:45pm
Fed Sep 13, 2019 @ 11:35am 
in short though it'll come down to if you're willing to spend 5 point for a weapon that has the ability to 1 shot at close-medium range, or just go with the SCAR for 3 points and have more options for equipement/gear but is a 2 shot kill with only a 20 round mag
Rabbit (Banned) Sep 13, 2019 @ 1:33pm 
M14 = big pp energy
Scar = cringe energy
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Date Posted: Sep 11, 2019 @ 10:14pm
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