More Shotguns

[Child Soulja]

Does anyone else think there needs to be more shotguns added to the game? Breacher feels somewhat lack lusting because the shotguns kinda suck. There really should be at least two shotguns added, specifically an AA-12 and Saiga-12. The Saiga-12 could be worth 3 points and the AA-12 could be worth 4. I really think just these two guns could add a substantial amount of fun to the Bracher class

[Maki Nishikino]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9eYnG1CsCg

https://www.reddit.com/r/insurgency/comments/brtwdd/masterkey_underbarrel_in_game/

The M26 should be able to be underslung.

[Wolfsmaul-GER]

if there are going to be the AA-12 and the saiga-12 they should be semi automatic and minimum both cost 4 points because they are mag fed and generally shotguns are very strong

[Winnie]

they arent gonna add non military grade weapons.

all the weapons revolve around what is use or used by military (as in fully adopted)

your best bet for automatic shotgun would be M1014 since US Marine still use that

[El Kapro]

Benelli M4 (M1014) for security and SPAS-12 or Saiga 12 for Insurgents. Make them cost 4 or 5 points with 5 roung mags as standard and 7 round upgrade.

[The roast is real]

They won't add any semi-auto shotgun. They just decided to ignore the fact that semi-auto shotguns were the third more requested weapons in the last poll.

The only thing they want to add is ARs, ARs, and more boring ARs (because we don't have enough). At this point, every weapon will just feel like a reskin.

[NickySins]

Originally posted by The roast is real:

At this point, every weapon will just feel like a reskin.

That's exactly how it works in real life lol

What, isn't the MK18 just a reskined M4A1? (:

[ qurotro ]

how about a double barrel 10 gauge with massive recoil and massive damage?

[Wild colonial boy]

Originally posted by El Kapro:

Benelli M4 (M1014) for security and SPAS-12 or Saiga 12 for Insurgents. Make them cost 4 or 5 points with 5 roung mags as standard and 7 round upgrade.

There are enough 10 rds mags for Saiga, no point in 7 rds

[Wild colonial boy]

Originally posted by The roast is real:

They won't add any semi-auto shotgun. They just decided to ignore the fact that semi-auto shotguns were the third more requested weapons in the last poll.

What a pathetic thing to do

[florble mcfumperdink]

What about a shotgun sidearm?

For instance the Mossberg M500 or the Mossberg M590 Shockwave with a 4 or 5 round tube.

[Cherokee Gage]

BENELLI M4 PLEEEEASE

[The roast is real]

Originally posted by Takuya:

Originally posted by The roast is real:

At this point, every weapon will just feel like a reskin.

That's exactly how it works in real life lol

What, isn't the MK18 just a reskined M4A1? (:

Nope, in real life you feel the weapon, so every weapon is definitely different. In a videogame you can't feel the weapon, so everything comes down to muzzle velocity, damage, penetration and recoil.

For example, an AS-VAL would be a really good adittion and it would not feel like a reskin. High damage against flesh, slow velocity, and being able to turn it into a VSS would be great. (Just like we are able to turn MP5A5 into a MP5SD.

UMP-45 wouldn't feel like a reskin neither because we don't have .45 ACP SMGs. Less range than any SMG (slower muzzle velocity), but really good damage against flesh.

Five-SeveN or P90: Not that good against flesh, but really useful against armor, higher muzzle velocity than MP7, high capacity, low recoil. (I don't know if P90 would be OP tho).

Tube-fed semi-auto shotguns would definitely not feel like a reskin neither (mag-fed would probably be OP, so avoid these). And a really good way to realistically balance them would be making them expensive (4 o 5 points), heavier, limit their ammo capacity to 4 shells + 1 in chamber, add a 2 or 3 points extended tube attachment (7+1 shells) and make flechette and slugs 2 points instead of 1.

[Wild colonial boy]

Originally posted by The roast is real:

Tube-fed semi-auto shotguns would definitely not feel like a reskin neither (mag-fed would probably be OP, so avoid these).

They can't be OP, they have low mag capacity and high recoil.

[NickySins]

Originally posted by Wild colonial boy:

Originally posted by The roast is real:

Tube-fed semi-auto shotguns would definitely not feel like a reskin neither (mag-fed would probably be OP, so avoid these).

They can't be OP, they have low mag capacity and high recoil.

Shotguns already rule the game, give them magazines and breacher is gonna become the new advisor, always full.

[Wild colonial boy]

Originally posted by Takuya:

Originally posted by Wild colonial boy:

They can't be OP, they have low mag capacity and high recoil.

Shotguns already rule the game.

Are you sure about it? Running shotgun you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you will miss first shot or fighting against multiple enemies. This is why I never play breacher.