Insurgency: Sandstorm

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Casual Sun Jan 30, 2019 @ 11:29am
Why does the SCAR-H suck so much compared to other 7.62 NATO?
Title. Penetration value and bullet velocity for the SCAR-H are markedly lower than the other 7.62x51 and 7.62x54r battle rifles (G3, FAL). Supposing the EBR and FAL are 20 inch versions, the SCAR-H (which appears to have a 16 inch barrel) should at least be in line with the G3.

It is... tolerable at best. You can throw game balance at me all you want, but if that is the case, the niche of the SCAR-H should be depicted by something that more closely aligns with its in-game performance. Insurgency is normally at least true to the ammo of the firearm and sharing common traits amongst shared cartridges. The SCAR-H abnormally sucks despite this. Even with its slightly subpar performance ballistically, it recieves no large benefit recoil-wise compared to the other BRs.
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Zhohan Jan 30, 2019 @ 11:37am 
Hope this is changed in a future patch.
Prelude Jan 30, 2019 @ 11:52pm 
Isn't it one point cheaper then the other battle rifles?
Casual Sun Jan 31, 2019 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by Prelude:
Isn't it one point cheaper then the other battle rifles?

Yes, but it is normal for the same or similar guns and attachments to have different point values depending on the class using them. Also, it still doesn't make sense. That's like having one variant of a gun be a point cheaper but just perform worse in terms of hard stats.
Sgt Rock Jan 31, 2019 @ 6:36am 
The actual difference between a 16 inch and a 20 in barrel is low enough to be non-existant.

There should be no difference at all in hitting power.
Sgt Rock Jan 31, 2019 @ 6:41am 
less than 10% max difference in velocity..means no discernable difference at the ranges in this game (for all intents and purposes, nothing longer than 200 yards)

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Last edited by Sgt Rock; Jan 31, 2019 @ 6:42am
Casual Sun Jan 31, 2019 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by Sgt Rock:
The actual difference between a 16 inch and a 20 in barrel is low enough to be non-existant.

There should be no difference at all in hitting power.

SCAR-H is a 2 hit far more often than any of the other 7.62x54r and 7.62x51, go actually play the game and see.
Sgt Rock Jan 31, 2019 @ 6:49am 
Originally posted by Casual Sun:
Originally posted by Sgt Rock:
The actual difference between a 16 inch and a 20 in barrel is low enough to be non-existant.

There should be no difference at all in hitting power.

SCAR-H is a 2 hit far more often than any of the other 7.62x54r and 7.62x51, go actually play the game and see.
Seriously dude? Check my profile. I play a lot.. G3 hits harder
Casual Sun Jan 31, 2019 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by Sgt Rock:
Originally posted by Casual Sun:

SCAR-H is a 2 hit far more often than any of the other 7.62x54r and 7.62x51, go actually play the game and see.
Seriously dude? Check my profile. I play a lot.. G3 hits harder

Yes, and the PKM 1 shots everywhere except extreme distances. Again, why does the SCAR-H suck compared to all other weapons using same or similar caliber.
luckyshot5135 Jan 31, 2019 @ 7:07am 
Originally posted by Casual Sun:
Originally posted by Sgt Rock:
Seriously dude? Check my profile. I play a lot.. G3 hits harder

Yes, and the PKM 1 shots everywhere except extreme distances. Again, why does the SCAR-H suck compared to all other weapons using same or similar caliber.

The scar h keeps its two hit kill distance farther and also has better damage against heavy armor.
Casual Sun Jan 31, 2019 @ 7:10am 
Originally posted by luckyshot5135:
Originally posted by Casual Sun:

Yes, and the PKM 1 shots everywhere except extreme distances. Again, why does the SCAR-H suck compared to all other weapons using same or similar caliber.

The scar h keeps its two hit kill distance farther and also has better damage against heavy armor.

compared to
luckyshot5135 Jan 31, 2019 @ 7:14am 
Originally posted by Casual Sun:
Originally posted by luckyshot5135:

The scar h keeps its two hit kill distance farther and also has better damage against heavy armor.

compared to

the other br's such as g3 and fal, but it also has the upside of costing less and hitting similar while having very manageable recoil.
Last edited by luckyshot5135; Jan 31, 2019 @ 7:15am
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Date Posted: Jan 30, 2019 @ 11:29am
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