Insurgency: Sandstorm

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wolf Dec 7, 2018 @ 2:23pm
FN five-seven
would anyone else like to see this gun in the game
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Maki Nishikino Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by Yashiro N.:
Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

That isn't an argument. :maple2:
It actually is. again its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FN mam, everybody goes for the cool weapon lol

If you say so chief.
The Implication Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:34pm 
They are neat but its a redundant weapon for a side arm. It lacks the CQB stopping power of 9mm or .45... Which is why they haven't been widely adopted by military units, just mostly agencies who carry just a pistol
Frenchy56 Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by Yashiro N.:
Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

That isn't an argument. :maple2:
It actually is. again its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FN mam, everybody goes for the cool weapon lol
I see nobody use the SCAR...
Last edited by Frenchy56; Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:35pm
NickySins Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:38pm 
Originally posted by Freb Bemson:
They are neat but its a redundant weapon for a side arm. It lacks the CQB stopping power of 9mm or .45... Which is why they haven't been widely adopted by military units, just mostly agencies who carry just a pistol
The S.W.A.T uses it for CQB, so i don't think you're right. Yes, i gotta agree thou it lacks stopping power, but its a really good CQB gun because of its highly penetrative rounds *OHHH THERES A GUY IN THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DOOR BEHIND A DESK? OOHOHOHOHOH I HAVE A FN HERE BRO*
NickySins Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by Frenchy56:
Originally posted by Yashiro N.:
It actually is. again its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ FN mam, everybody goes for the cool weapon lol
I see nobody use the SCAR...
I only see people using the SCAR and the MK18 lol, one weapon no one uses is the M16A4.
Maki Nishikino Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:41pm 
Originally posted by Yashiro N.:
Originally posted by Frenchy56:
I see nobody use the SCAR...
I only see people using the SCAR and the MK18 lol, one weapon no one uses is the M16A4.

I do.
NickySins Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:42pm 
Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:
Originally posted by Yashiro N.:
I only see people using the SCAR and the MK18 lol, one weapon no one uses is the M16A4.

I do.
Really rare seeing people using it, my most used guns are the Mk18, SCAR, and M16A2
Frenchy56 Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Yashiro N.:
Originally posted by Freb Bemson:
They are neat but its a redundant weapon for a side arm. It lacks the CQB stopping power of 9mm or .45... Which is why they haven't been widely adopted by military units, just mostly agencies who carry just a pistol
The S.W.A.T uses it for CQB, so i don't think you're right. Yes, i gotta agree thou it lacks stopping power, but its a really good CQB gun because of its highly penetrative rounds *OHHH THERES A GUY IN THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS DOOR BEHIND A DESK? OOHOHOHOHOH I HAVE A FN HERE BRO*
Aren't police overly concerned with overpenetration? Not sure if that's the case with SWAT teams though.
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Rabbit (Banned) Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:57pm 
Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:
5.7x28mm would mean power creep.
Desert Eage or .357 Magnum
Empress Kaligosa Dec 7, 2018 @ 3:57pm 
as a little bit of an FN fanboy this pistol is one i think every single fps should have, but obviously in this due to, as others have mentioned, the very good penetration the 5.7mm round has, it should have a pretty high price on it. Obviously it would have mag size, recoil and armor pen be better than other pistols but the damage should not be able to surpass anything with a rifle caliber...maybe make the fire rate a little bit lower than other pistols? just my two cents there.
Strange Dec 7, 2018 @ 6:43pm 
I love the Five-Seven, personally. It's a rifle in the form of a handgun with a 20+1 capacity, huge penetration potential, accurate as ♥♥♥♥, with the recoil of a little more than a .22 and little less than a 9mm. Yes, I rent one from time to time at the range, but no, I do not OWN one. 1,200 bucks is a wee-bit steep for my blood. One day, tho. One day...

However...
They would have to come up with an odd damage system for it and most likely end up making a nerfed down version of the actual Five-Seven. As mentioned, power creep with that would be really real and the penetration values would be huge. Plus different tipped 5.7 rounds would get thrown around and it would most likely be a mess for the 'meta' of the game in terms of ballistics (5.56, 7.62, .45, etc)

But yes, I would still like to see it in the game, even though I wouldn't. :47_thumb_up:

*Disclaimer*
This is NOT a caliber discussion or debate. That's a circle jerk of never ending madness I want no part of. A round to the face, is a round to the face any way you look at it. If the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MP7 can have it's glory all over the place, the Five-Seven should too.
Maki Nishikino Dec 7, 2018 @ 6:44pm 
Originally posted by Strange66:
I love the Five-Seven, personally. It's a rifle in the form of a handgun with a 20+1 capacity, huge penetration potential, accurate as ♥♥♥♥, with the recoil of a little more than a .22 and little less than a 9mm. Yes, I rent one from time to time at the range, but no, I do not OWN one. 1,200 bucks is a wee-bit steep for my blood. One day, tho. One day...

However...
They would have to come up with an odd damage system for it and most likely end up making a nerfed down version of the actual Five-Seven. As mentioned, power creep with that would be really real and the penetration values would be huge. Plus different tipped 5.7 rounds would get thrown around and it would most likely be a mess for the 'meta' of the game in terms of ballistics (5.56, 7.62, .45, etc)

But yes, I would still like to see it in the game, even though I wouldn't. :47_thumb_up:

*Disclaimer*
This is NOT a caliber discussion or debate. That's a circle jerk of never ending madness I want no part of. A round to the face, is a round to the face any way you look at it. If the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MP7 can have it's glory all over the place, the Five-Seven should too.

The MP7 is a primary though.
Hidden Dec 7, 2018 @ 7:25pm 
Originally posted by Strange66:
I love the Five-Seven, personally. It's a rifle in the form of a handgun with a 20+1 capacity, huge penetration potential, accurate as ♥♥♥♥, with the recoil of a little more than a .22 and little less than a 9mm. Yes, I rent one from time to time at the range, but no, I do not OWN one. 1,200 bucks is a wee-bit steep for my blood. One day, tho. One day...

However...
They would have to come up with an odd damage system for it and most likely end up making a nerfed down version of the actual Five-Seven. As mentioned, power creep with that would be really real and the penetration values would be huge. Plus different tipped 5.7 rounds would get thrown around and it would most likely be a mess for the 'meta' of the game in terms of ballistics (5.56, 7.62, .45, etc)

But yes, I would still like to see it in the game, even though I wouldn't. :47_thumb_up:

*Disclaimer*
This is NOT a caliber discussion or debate. That's a circle jerk of never ending madness I want no part of. A round to the face, is a round to the face any way you look at it. If the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ MP7 can have it's glory all over the place, the Five-Seven should too.
finally, someone who you can tell shoots a little.

As someone who barely knows about rounds myself, it was kind of funny to stumble through and read this thread with vague comments about it's "stopping power".

cute some gun myths never die

The 5.7 is impressive because its a hot little round, and its got close to the same muzzle energy as a 115 grain 9mm round. energy increases when you consider P+ rounds though.

but when it leaves the barrel at over 2,000 fps it makes a 9mm blush. it would be interesting to see it balanced in game, as i havent even looked into the round's behavior after contact.

hell people still think 5.56 mm is a "weak" round. you can only chuckle and shake your head.

the wound profiles from the m16 on viet cong were so devastating that the cia didnt declassify them until 1983

The only time the 5.56mm itself ever had teething issues is when they took the chopped the barrel down for the m4, and was using standard "ball" ammunition.

every commercially successful round has a purpose and a niche over the next. thats why they exist. Hell even a 22 is deadly.

Id love to see all guns by the way. the more the merrier. with lots of different calibers and attachments because im horny for ♥♥♥♥ like that.
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Date Posted: Dec 7, 2018 @ 2:23pm
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