Shotgun range is ridicilous.

[Sorrow]

Needs rework ASAP.

[North]

+1 and a half

[Erzurum]

Slugs round will do that if I'm not mistaken, the game is realistic. Also keep in mind that missing with the shotgun means you'll die because of how long shooting a second round will take.

[Senpai-Kun]

again, this is about the 5000th post about this, use the search bar and realise its perfectly fine as it is

[North]

gun is overpowered for comp play getting shot a mile away when i have heavy armor makes heavy armor pointless because the heavy armor is meant to prevent that + handgun caliber rounds i dont appreciate being sniped from 70+ metres by buckshot either when i have heavy armor on, obviously something is wrong.

[Senpai-Kun]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥ yo dead homies:

gun is overpowered for comp play getting shot a mile away when i have heavy armor makes heavy armor pointless because the heavy armor is meant to prevent that + handgun caliber rounds i dont appreciate being sniped from 70+ metres by buckshot either when i have heavy armor on, obviously something is wrong.

i need to copy and paste this but
cylce rate is slow on a shot gun, you can fire pretty much any AR 2-3 times per shell
reload speed is terrible and only 8 shells, any AR or sniper does 20-30 in like 2 seconds
shotguns cant get 7x like snipers can
AR's can be flipped to auto

pretty much every other gun other than smgs outclass shotguns in medium to long range fire fights and smgs are arguably better in cqc due to faster reload

[H2oevolved]

Power > Range

[Teeky]

Originally posted by Sorrow:

Needs rework ASAP.

If you miss any shot with a shotgun, you literally die because of how slow the pump is. They're not hard to counter, use a FAL. Shotguns are balanced in this game, you're just not used to them being real threats. They're basically a bolt action rifle.

[Sorrow]

Originally posted by Danrobi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_0LIx2LHI&t=328s

Im talking about RANGE not ACCURACY in here.

Originally posted by Ryker:

If you miss any shot with a shotgun, you literally die because of how slow the pump is. They're not hard to counter, use a FAL. Shotguns are balanced in this game, you're just not used to them being real threats. They're basically a bolt action rifle.

Originally posted by Erzurum:

Slugs round will do that if I'm not mistaken, the game is realistic. Also keep in mind that missing with the shotgun means you'll die because of how long shooting a second round will take.

Then whats the point of having the mosin rifle?
I think you too are a bit confused in here.
It suppost to be a shotgun... not a sniper rifle!

[Sorrow]

Originally posted by Senpai-Kun:

again, this is about the 5000th post about this, use the search bar and realise its perfectly fine as it is

If i used search bar and find 5000 posts about it that makes it a problem and not a solution.
Numerious complains doesn't make it fine. (maybe for you it does, for other 5000 of us its a big issue)

Originally posted by Danrobi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_0LIx2LHI&t=328s

Im talking about RANGE not ACCURACY in here.

Originally posted by Ryker:

If you miss any shot with a shotgun, you literally die because of how slow the pump is. They're not hard to counter, use a FAL. Shotguns are balanced in this game, you're just not used to them being real threats. They're basically a bolt action rifle.

Originally posted by Erzurum:

Slugs round will do that if I'm not mistaken, the game is realistic. Also keep in mind that missing with the shotgun means you'll die because of how long shooting a second round will take.

Then whats the point of having the mosin rifle?
I think you too are a bit confused in here.
It suppost to be a shotgun... not a sniper rifle!

[Erzurum]

Originally posted by Sorrow:

Originally posted by Senpai-Kun:

again, this is about the 5000th post about this, use the search bar and realise its perfectly fine as it is

If i used search bar and find 5000 posts about it that makes it a problem and not a solution.
Numerious complains doesn't make it fine. (maybe for you it does, for other 5000 of us its a big issue)

Originally posted by Danrobi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p_0LIx2LHI&t=328s

Im talking about RANGE not ACCURACY in here.

Originally posted by Ryker:

If you miss any shot with a shotgun, you literally die because of how slow the pump is. They're not hard to counter, use a FAL. Shotguns are balanced in this game, you're just not used to them being real threats. They're basically a bolt action rifle.

Originally posted by Erzurum:

Slugs round will do that if I'm not mistaken, the game is realistic. Also keep in mind that missing with the shotgun means you'll die because of how long shooting a second round will take.

Then whats the point of having the mosin rifle?
I think you too are a bit confused in here.
It suppost to be a shotgun... not a sniper rifle!

Shotgun are for from OP. Like I said you miss you are pretty much dead. Now, a slug is accurate at long distance, not as much as a mosin tho. In the game, when I play with a shotgun it happened many time that I did not have a sufficient range to kill with Slug rounds.

Now, in CQB with a slug round you would need to be pretty accurate to kill. Much more than just with an AK for example. Each weapons in game has upside and downside live with it.

A slug is almost if not a bullet. Thats why it's accurate at longer distance than your average shotgun round. The game just try to represent real life,at least that how I see it from my limited knowledge of firearms.

[Sorrow]

Originally posted by Erzurum:

Shotgun are for from OP. Like I said you miss you are pretty much dead. Now, a slug is accurate at long distance, not as much as a mosin tho. In the game, when I play with a shotgun it happened many time that I did not have a sufficient range to kill with Slug rounds.

Now, in CQB with a slug round you would need to be pretty accurate to kill. Much more than just with an AK for example. Each weapons in game has upside and downside live with it.

A slug is almost if not a bullet. Thats why it's accurate at longer distance than your average shotgun round. The game just try to represent real life,at least that how I see it from my limited knowledge of firearms.

Shotgun is OP in the current version of the game.

The damage does not drop on long distance at all.
Like i said it's like shooting with a bit nerfed mosin.
High dmg on long distance with spot on accuracy does not represent shotgun.
It's ridicilous...
It's hilarious on what distance shotgun kill even if you are fully loaded on kevlar.
It's the only broken gun in the game.

[Coldsteel]

Here we go again, Callf of Duty children complaning that shotguns can kill people past 15 feet range.

Buckshot is instantly lethal up to 60 yards and can deliver fatal wounds up to 100 yards. Slug is a huge bullet, it naturally has long range.

[Sorrow]

Originally posted by Coldsteel:

Here we go again, Callf of Duty children complaning that shotguns can kill people past 15 feet range.

Buckshot is instantly lethal up to 60 yards and can deliver fatal wounds up to 100 yards. Slug is a huge bullet, it naturally has long range.

It has nothing to do with call of duty genius, it has to do with overall balance of the game.
With the current shotguns you don't even need mosin besides them.

Atm they have the distance, the damage and the accuracy of the snipers so i don't need the wikipedia of the shotguns i never asked for.
It needs reworking..

[Coldsteel]

Originally posted by Sorrow:

So what do you suggest? Make shotgun pellets turn into popcorn 30 feet from the muzzle? So that shotguns are just as lame as in every other game out there? Well that's a big NO from me. Shotgun rounds are more powerful than 30-06 and the only thing making them worse than sniper rifle is that pellets are only effective up to 100 yards and slugs are less accurate than rifle bullets. Shotgun is THE close combat weapon. There's a good reason EVERYONE was using it in trench warfare of WW1.

[Sorrow]

Originally posted by Coldsteel:

So what do you suggest? Make shotgun pellets turn into popcorn 30 feet from the muzzle? So that shotguns are just as lame as in every other game out there? Well that's a big NO from me.

A close to medium range high damage with high penetration.
You shoud choose between spread and accuracy.
So it's eather high chance of killing or damaging 2 guys standing right next to eachother or 2 guys standing in a line.

Not doing a meme shotgun to sniper rifle weapon.
This is the first game i coud use shotgun as a sniper.