Removed content?

[nova hero]

Aside from the bad peformance that is experienced by some players, others not so much, I want to talk about the removed content of the game(not generally whine about it but more or less asking why it happened).

I was selected to play in the second closed alpha. The game featured 6 maps: Town(which is now hideout), Canyon(which is now crossing), Mountain(which is now Summit), Oil Refinery, Farmhouse and Precinct(which i had not played in the alpha, but the devs asked about it in the closed alpha feedback survey and players supposedly played on it). The game also had pop ins of the Galil Model and sometimes at the end of the match where it stated "favoured weapon" it was showing the mp40. That made me excited because i thought they will include those weapons in the final game. That is not a big of a deal anyway.

In the first pre-order beta, there were three maps: farmhouse, oil refinery and hideout. Why didn't they include all of them i did not know but I also did not know at the time that those 6 maps were the final maps of the game (Devs stated in some post that the full release game will show the final 6 maps of the game).

The problem is that the last beta which last till the release is supposed to be the full game, just with bugs which require fixing. We were told that several times. The second closed alpha is the full game. Now we have only 4 maps (where is oil refinery and precinct?). I dont get it to why you would remove it, the map was good. Will the final game release without those 2 maps that WERE in the game? Why would you remove them, the game had few content anyway, but those 4 maps are begining to get stale.

TL:DR : This is supposed to be the final build of the game with full content but with tehnical flaws.

-Why was Oil refinery removed from the closed alpha and first beta.
- Why was precinct removed from the closed alpha.
-During the closed alpha and first beta we had an option"create game". I thought I could create my private game to play with friends, but instead I got offline play with bots, which I like but that is not the point.
- Why did the costumization prices suddenly spike up ? Are you planning to include micro transactions in the future even though you told us that costumization will only be acquired from gameplay-earned credits? Paid cosmetics are not bad(even though i highly deslike them), but why lie about it.

[schlemiel]

i played on NDA too ;)

[nova hero]

Originally posted by schlemiel:

i played on NDA too ;)

Yeah, well they had promised 6 maps for the full release during the first beta which was not under NDA and I had encountered those two bugs during the first beta as well. I just stated the name of the 6th map that was promised, I hadn't revealed that much about the closed alpha

[Scarlet]

I just hope co-op isnt stripped, the first game had loads of co-op modes and local play and for someone who doesnt like the PvP due to running into cheaters all the time i prefer co-op.

[nova hero]

Originally posted by Raven:

I just hope co-op isnt stripped, the first game had loads of co-op modes and local play and for someone who doesnt like the PvP due to running into cheaters all the time i prefer co-op.

Yeah I am dissapointed as well that there is no hunt, survival, conquer or outpost. I miss even the VIP mode. Fingers crossed they will add those modes after the release. (99% sure at the full release this is all we get)

[namboo]

@Dredd its alright, have you had experience with original insurgency?

[a cheeky yena]

I hope Oil Refinery makes a return. It was a favourite of mine during beta #1.

[Antarata]

They will add more. I am convinced that they aren't releasing everything in the pre-order beta on day 1 for various reasons. It would likely be because filling servers would be tricky as not everyone would pre-order the game. Also it could have something to do with testing everything one step at a time to isolate bugs.

[Frenchy56]

Originally posted by a cheeky yena:

I hope Oil Refinery makes a return. It was a favourite of mine during beta #1.

Yeah, I'm starting to miss it.

[lt_delay]

can you imagine that the missing maps are "under investigation" after the last beta and will be added by an update the next days/weeks until release?
nothing to complain about yet, maps were coming and going between the lasts tests and you have temporarily played only 1 or 2 maps of 2-4 more available in the tests at specific hours cause they were testing/tweaking or monitoring from the server server side...

[nova hero]

Yeah, they shouldn't have stated that the second beta will be the full game then. I am aware that they are testing the maps at the moment and will be released on the 18th but I am just asking questions.

[Jonny-Higgins]

Hi all,

Refinery was removed from the start of Beta 2 as it needed a bit more work - It needed refining!

We will be adding Refinery along with Precinct to Beta 2 shortly and possibly swapping out a few other maps to ensure that testers get enough playtime on these, however we are still targeting 6 maps for launch.

The training map, server browser, and other features will also be added either later in the beta or at lauch, custom games however have now been moved to post-launch.

Regarding item costs / microtransactions:

Currently there are no micro-transactions in the game and all the cosmetic item prices are subject to change. We are using the Beta to gather information on how fast or slow people acquire cosmetic tokens though normal gameplay as well as which items are most desirable.

At the current rate you should receive 100 appearance credits plus one random item per level (approximately 1hr of gameplay).

In the past we have said that we *may* add the option post release for fans to buy appearance credit packs, however this will be totally optional for those who want a shortcut. All items will be unlockable though normal gameplay, nothing will be paywalled and there will be no item trading.

Character customization is totally cosmetic and the items have been specifically chosen to not have any impact on gameplay. Rest assured, there will be no pay-to-win items in Sandstorm!

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