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Sgt.Shadow Jun 24, 2019 @ 1:31pm
Multicam Uniform
Any chance the devs will add US Army Multicam uniform to the game? Polypat is very cool but it is a bit too much green for the desert setting of the game
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DirtyDan Jun 24, 2019 @ 2:05pm 
They have the current US Army MC uniform in game right now lol

What are you referring to? Multicam is a green camo. There's Multicam black, arid, tropic (not in game) ; but regular multicam is green like it is in game
Last edited by DirtyDan; Jun 24, 2019 @ 2:05pm
Sgt.Shadow Jun 24, 2019 @ 2:18pm 
The Multicam used in Arid areas like Iraq is a grey/urban one. That one has not a single dot of green.
In-game you are refering to Polypat right? That one is green as green can be, not to be used on desert/arid areas
Grizz_FMJ Jun 24, 2019 @ 2:50pm 
The Army uses Scorpion pattern which is a form of multi cam. It was just cheaper to have the army pay the vendor to make a "Scorpion" pattern...which is practically identical to multicam. I am in the Army so I am well aware of this. In game , there is a pattern much like what we use..it may be the "Polypat" ? I don't remember the name the game gave it, but my dude has it on him in the game.
DirtyDan Jun 24, 2019 @ 4:14pm 
idk man I was in the Marines and we kept it simple with two camos lol

I think OP is referring to ACU camo maybe? When you say multicam yeah, the green one is usually what people are going to think you are talking about.
Sgt.Shadow Jun 24, 2019 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by DirtyDan0311:
idk man I was in the Marines and we kept it simple with two camos lol

I think OP is referring to ACU camo maybe? When you say multicam yeah, the green one is usually what people are going to think you are talking about.

The one in this image:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/images/Elements_of_the_3rd_Stryker_brigade_on_patrol_in_Iraq_-a.jpg?itok=B-BpSWSl

Do you know what it is called? I thought it was called arid multicam but I could be wrong.

Edit: After some googling I'm positive it could be the ACU. Do you know if the devs have plans to insert them in the game?
Last edited by Sgt.Shadow; Jun 24, 2019 @ 4:20pm
Grizz_FMJ Jun 24, 2019 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by DirtyDan0311:
idk man I was in the Marines and we kept it simple with two camos lol

I think OP is referring to ACU camo maybe? When you say multicam yeah, the green one is usually what people are going to think you are talking about.

Technically all Army uniforms are ACU
( Army Combat Uniform) , with OCP/Scorpions being a variant. Even people in the army confuse it lol. But yeah if he is thinking the ACU digital ( blueish color that looks like you only blend in to a pile of rocks) then yeah I didn’t see it in game. Plus it is not used anymore by the army since September. The polypat camp is pretty much what we use now. So I doubt they’ll make any revisions in OCP camo since that’s in there.

It be cool though if they added cosmetic patches for helmets and tops though.
Grizz_FMJ Jun 24, 2019 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by Sgt.Shadow:
Originally posted by DirtyDan0311:
idk man I was in the Marines and we kept it simple with two camos lol

I think OP is referring to ACU camo maybe? When you say multicam yeah, the green one is usually what people are going to think you are talking about.

The one in this image:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/images/Elements_of_the_3rd_Stryker_brigade_on_patrol_in_Iraq_-a.jpg?itok=B-BpSWSl

Do you know what it is called? I thought it was called arid multicam but I could be wrong.

Edit: After some googling I'm positive it could be the ACU. Do you know if the devs have plans to insert them in the game?

Yes that’s ACU digital. It’s not used anymore since September . Thank god. Such a useless camo unless you’re hiding in a rock pile. The OCPs are wayyyyy nicer. Even the Airforce stole them from us lol.
kronos Jun 24, 2019 @ 4:56pm 
if green camo was good enough for the usmc in 2003 it's good enough for us
GRU-Vy Jun 24, 2019 @ 6:11pm 
Probally has to do with copyright thats why its called polypst and not multicam. Same reason the glock got pulled and re added as something else.
Arcane Teuton Jun 24, 2019 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Kilroy_SS177:
Originally posted by Sgt.Shadow:

The one in this image:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/images/Elements_of_the_3rd_Stryker_brigade_on_patrol_in_Iraq_-a.jpg?itok=B-BpSWSl

Do you know what it is called? I thought it was called arid multicam but I could be wrong.

Edit: After some googling I'm positive it could be the ACU. Do you know if the devs have plans to insert them in the game?

Yes that’s ACU digital. It’s not used anymore since September . Thank god. Such a useless camo unless you’re hiding in a rock pile. The OCPs are wayyyyy nicer. Even the Airforce stole them from us lol.

I'm sorry, but what are you talking about? ACU digital runs circles around OCP in urban environments.

The ACU digital isn't a bad camo, it's just very limited. (It proclaims it is multi-purpose, but it is not. That's why people give it such a hard time. It's good only for a very specific job.) It's impossible to have a multi purpose camo for every situation. If you were wearing OCP in a city, you'd be spotted a mile away.

ACU is most useful in urban environments, like in the picture, or in plain desert or arid environments.

OCP is easier to see in urban environments because of the simple fact that its patterns do not look anything like buildings, or even sand itself. ACU mimics bricks and sand patterns to a questionably successful degree. Could it be improved? Of course. No camo is perfect, since they are specifically engineered to trick the human eye, which has a high degree of variability.

OCP is much better in foliage dense environments, but in no way is it superior to ACU in urban environments.

Of course, there could be a camo which is superior to both in urban environments.
Last edited by Arcane Teuton; Jun 24, 2019 @ 9:31pm
Sage Jun 24, 2019 @ 9:08pm 
Originally posted by Sgt.Shadow:
Originally posted by DirtyDan0311:
idk man I was in the Marines and we kept it simple with two camos lol

I think OP is referring to ACU camo maybe? When you say multicam yeah, the green one is usually what people are going to think you are talking about.

The one in this image:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/sites/default/files/styles/article_page/public/images/Elements_of_the_3rd_Stryker_brigade_on_patrol_in_Iraq_-a.jpg?itok=B-BpSWSl

Do you know what it is called? I thought it was called arid multicam but I could be wrong.

Edit: After some googling I'm positive it could be the ACU. Do you know if the devs have plans to insert them in the game?

Yeah, that's not Multicam, that's UCP - "Universal Camouflage Pattern." It sucks, and is possibly the worst camouflage color scheme ever chosen for issue. It's definitely about as far from "universal" as a uniform color can get.

And FWIW, yes Multicam has copyrights attached to it. Devs had to change the pattern a bit to avoid them, too. Same with the stand-ins for the USMC desert and forest patterns, the "smear" patterns which are based on A-TACS and probably a couple of others.
Last edited by Sage; Jun 24, 2019 @ 9:09pm
Originally posted by Sgt.Shadow:
The Multicam used in Arid areas like Iraq is a grey/urban one.
My old Soldiers currently in Iraq and Syria are wearing either standard Multicam/OCP or something suspiciously like AOR-1, for what that's worth.
Last edited by Regional Waffle Supply; Jun 25, 2019 @ 8:29am
Grizz_FMJ Jun 25, 2019 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by Tarnil Corvax:
Originally posted by Kilroy_SS177:

Yes that’s ACU digital. It’s not used anymore since September . Thank god. Such a useless camo unless you’re hiding in a rock pile. The OCPs are wayyyyy nicer. Even the Airforce stole them from us lol.

I'm sorry, but what are you talking about? ACU digital runs circles around OCP in urban environments.

The ACU digital isn't a bad camo, it's just very limited. (It proclaims it is multi-purpose, but it is not. That's why people give it such a hard time. It's good only for a very specific job.) It's impossible to have a multi purpose camo for every situation. If you were wearing OCP in a city, you'd be spotted a mile away.

ACU is most useful in urban environments, like in the picture, or in plain desert or arid environments.

OCP is easier to see in urban environments because of the simple fact that its patterns do not look anything like buildings, or even sand itself. ACU mimics bricks and sand patterns to a questionably successful degree. Could it be improved? Of course. No camo is perfect, since they are specifically engineered to trick the human eye, which has a high degree of variability.

OCP is much better in foliage dense environments, but in no way is it superior to ACU in urban environments.

Of course, there could be a camo which is superior to both in urban environments.

Thanks for stating the obvious .

ACU is a broad name by the way. As I previously pointed out. You’re refering to the digital pattern . Yeah it’s blends better than OCP in urban environments, but the army isn’t concerned about urban warfare. It’s forcusing in rural engagements. And yeah no camo pattern is universal to all terrain or environments. Lol. But the digital pattern was horrible and that’s why we don’t use it anymore. No one liked it. Scorpion camo is great in the woodland/ swamp environments which is where the army prefers to be. If we are in an urban city , I can promise you the enemy already knows. You’re not hiding a conventional army in urban areas. In woodland environments you absolutely can and that’s why all the army’s FMs and TC’s focus around woodland environments. Not to mention all training exercises focus on woodland engagements with quick raids on small urban areas. More realistic. We have jets and drones now man. Army would much rather send a drone in and blast a target then send an entire infantry brigade into a city and have Iraq all over again.
Originally posted by Kilroy_SS177:

ACU is a broad name by the way. As I previously pointed out. You’re refering to the digital pattern . Yeah it’s blends better than OCP in urban environments, but the army isn’t concerned about urban warfare. It’s forcusing in rural engagements. And yeah no camo pattern is universal to all terrain or environments. Lol. But the digital pattern was horrible and that’s why we don’t use it anymore. No one liked it. Scorpion camo is great in the woodland/ swamp environments which is where the army prefers to be. If we are in an urban city , I can promise you the enemy already knows. You’re not hiding a conventional army in urban areas. In woodland environments you absolutely can and that’s why all the army’s FMs and TC’s focus around woodland environments. Not to mention all training exercises focus on woodland engagements with quick raids on small urban areas. More realistic. We have jets and drones now man. Army would much rather send a drone in and blast a target then send an entire infantry brigade into a city and have Iraq all over again.

Just because you or whoever supplies your information to you isn't practicing to fight in a city doesn't mean that the DOD or Army are not.

Megacity warfare is the "next big thing" a lot of people are hanging their hats on, including underground warfare and tunnel complexes.
Grizz_FMJ Jun 25, 2019 @ 2:38pm 
Originally posted by Anime Stapler:
Originally posted by Kilroy_SS177:

ACU is a broad name by the way. As I previously pointed out. You’re refering to the digital pattern . Yeah it’s blends better than OCP in urban environments, but the army isn’t concerned about urban warfare. It’s forcusing in rural engagements. And yeah no camo pattern is universal to all terrain or environments. Lol. But the digital pattern was horrible and that’s why we don’t use it anymore. No one liked it. Scorpion camo is great in the woodland/ swamp environments which is where the army prefers to be. If we are in an urban city , I can promise you the enemy already knows. You’re not hiding a conventional army in urban areas. In woodland environments you absolutely can and that’s why all the army’s FMs and TC’s focus around woodland environments. Not to mention all training exercises focus on woodland engagements with quick raids on small urban areas. More realistic. We have jets and drones now man. Army would much rather send a drone in and blast a target then send an entire infantry brigade into a city and have Iraq all over again.

Just because you or whoever supplies your information to you isn't practicing to fight in a city doesn't mean that the DOD or Army are not.

Megacity warfare is the "next big thing" a lot of people are hanging their hats on, including underground warfare and tunnel complexes.

Uhm the information is from the army under the DOD . And if you knew what you were talking about you would know the army trains under a strict doctrine. It’s not a random “ we train urban , you train jungle blah blah”.So idk who gave you your information on the “next big thing.” The army is focused on woodland warfare and its training is comprised around woodland conflicts. I’m pretty sure you can guess with who. But who am I to know. .

“Underground warfare and tunnel complexes .” Lol ok.
Think what you want man. I don’t have anything to lose or gain here.
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