Not gaining MMR at all, cause of teammates always suck!

[cappilos]

So as the title says I'm not getting any rating at all whatsoever, I win couple games, then I lose couple games and lose all the rating I just gained.

So when I was a noob I got rid off my TBD on solo rating, and I got like 1.4k mmr.
I've played A LOT of pubs after that, and I'm definitely not 1.4k player anymore, more like 3-4k.
I constantly have to teach my team mates that do something and dont do that etc, cause they are REALLY BAD!!!

Also one of the problems is that when I pick Leshrac to middle, there is no way I could carry THE WHOLE TEAM, because my teammates just pick heroes they have never played.
And enemyteam always are really bad, I really cringe when I see how they play, worst part is that my team is even worse, missing game-sense so much etc.

And if I take hard carry, it doesnt help at all, cause Still cannot get the farm I would like cause my team mates are just doing stupid dives behind the towers or pushing lanes way too far away, and end up dieing there, cause they cannot get back early.

Any idea how can I raise my solo MMR, right now its not rising cause I get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ teammates really often, and almost every game I can say that I lost because MY team got outplayed, excluding me.

So yeah maybe I have really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ luck or something.
Now for those who say that It's my fault that I'm not gaining any rating.

Let's think about this hypothetical situation where I'm dominating on mid, winning my lane like stomping kids left and right, Now there is this rubick for an example that feeds and had no idea what the hell he is doing, is it really my fault that enemy team really has that one better player and we are losing because of the rubick?

Absolutely NOT!
Would be nice if I could calibrate my solo rating, I'm trapped at this rating and there is no way out, unless I get really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lucky and somehow I manage to get better team mates/enemy team gets the luck I get really often.

So yeah, really my thoughts about Solo rating on Dota 2.
Those who say that I should play with my friends party rating... I DO NOT HAVE ANY FRIENDS!

Cheers

[Deepbluediver]

With less than 1k hours, you are definitely not "3 or 4k". Most of the people I know who are 4k+ have been playing since DotA was a Warcraft mod. The people who are 3k have been playing since the beta.


First of all, MMR is not a measure of absolute skill, it's a measure of RELATIVE skill. If you improve your DotA skills but everyone else also improves their skills by the same amount, then your MMR will remain the same.

Second, over the course of a large number of matches you have the exact same teammates and opponents as everyone else. If you were actually improving faster than they were, you're MMR would improve. Having bad teammates for a few recent games doesn't affect your overall skill.


Just to be clear about this, I did some rough calculations and based on my average winrate and number of matches played, I'm gaining about 400 MMR per YEAR. What makes you think you're doing significantly better?

If your winrate remains above 50%, your MMR will increase. You just need to be patient. The only people who can increase their MMR by 1000 or more per month are the people who get on a lower-rated or smurf account and troll-roll actual noobs.



TL;DR The system is NOT biased against you. You're not that important enough for Valve to care that much.

[lulborne]

dude you won't accomplish anything with these topics. I do get salty with teammates in many games (especially recently), but you won't see me complaining. it's not like i'll (or my teammates for that matter) play better by venting here anyway.

[Morti]

If youre really 3-4k then you easily rise (probably with 80% or more winrate until 2,5k or so, then the winrate goes down to maybe 65% or we).

Anyways focus on your own mistakes, not teammate mistakes. Thats the only thing to get better (and with that to rise in MMR)

[cappilos]

I'm just saying that if everyone in my team were equally good as me, I would definitely win every game at 1.4k rating, HANDS DOWN!

And btw, @Deepbluediver, I have played several games Competitively at high-level, which can help understanding the game, of course for someone who rarely plays videos games and you start playing dota 2, it can be hard, it's like slapping someone in the face with law book and say to that guy to study it!

I've had a lot of help from my friends, which area btw really good dota players 4-5k, they taught me the tricks and stoff when I started playing, so yes, for me I learned the game little bit faster than you maybe.
I can say that I'm easily 3-4k player, and no I still cannot carry the whole team while enemy team is getting fed, its not up to me, you need to work as team.
I'm usually only one talking there and trying to help people, to get better and lead us to the victory.

I also avoid micromanaging the whole team.
Just believe me when I'm saying that I am not 1.4k player.

But yes, I guess I have to be really patient.
The reason I wrote this thread is that I get so upset when we lose the game that we could've won, but team dont want to push the towers for example when we team-wipe them.

But anyways thanks for the answers though, really helped.

[Blind]

Because of the Pseudo-random number generator - play pubs until you're on a losing streak and then play ranked, guaranteed win.

[day]

Blah blah teammates suck blah blah blah not my fault blah blah blah

TBH Op, these threads pop up so much they just turn into clickbait and flamer fuel.

[Bono.HC]

if u are a rly 3-4k player , u can manage to grow up.
all the matches before u calibrate ur mmr are counted
so even if u lose all ur tbd matches , that just mean u lose 250 mmr.

if u cant manage to grow n u still think u are a 4k player , create a new acount , recalibrate n see the result.
after that , if u can at least stay with the same mmr , congrats, if ` team mates` make u lose again , sry, the dream is over

[Timoh]

I'm sorry to offend, but your statement "im really a 3-4k player, trust me guys" just shows pure arrogance.

1,4k is extremely bad and universes away from 4k. Most people in those brackets have no map awareness whatsoever, no teleports, don't counterpick, don't stack, dont know when to initiate etc.

If you're skill would be seriously at 3-4k your game impact would be very huge, even by just supporting the right way. There's no way you could potentially be on that skill level and stay in that bracket. Just because your playing with 4k people doesn't mean you are one.

If you're still really thinking you're 4k, just try a new account and recalibrate your MMR.
With some luck you'll start at 2,0k.

[Dio]

i feel you , i was 1,6k and im now 3k (1,3k hours between smurf account and main), i just made a smurf and played as my best till calibration (as support) your winrate won't be that good but you can definitely raise MMR if you're good . easyt way -> just go mid everytime and snowball , if you can't (at this tier) then just learn that's all you need

and still for all of you pros
solo matchmaking leads to broken teams either full of good players or totally idiots one , can't argue that

[HEX: LocalLadyboy]

800 hrs of dota 2, maybe 3k tops if you were dedicated. 4k is too generous, you'd have to be naturally talented or have read/watched guides and matches(which I doubt). Just stop bothering about MMR, it doesn't get any better at 3k and 4k. There're still trolls, courier feeders, feeders, dual mids, triple mids, no supports, nature prophets supports, troll builds(very obvious unreasonable builds that make no sense).

If u want a decent dota 2 ranked game, you wont find it in all pick, just play captains mode or queue with a stack. The odds of having a decent solo ranked match is somewhat uncommon, there is always a player that stands out for his/her stupidity.

If you were a 3k-4k player, you would be there already.

[cappilos]

@Jannina, "If you were a 3k-4k player you would be there already."
You argument is incorrect, like I said, I got rid of my TBD long time ago, and played pubs since.
I started playing Solo MMR last week, so far gotten 1.2-1.5k.
I'm not satisfied with the results since I've lost a lot of games because I get the idiots, like @<u>3DayG said, you cannot argue with that.

And yes, I've read guides for the heroes I pick in ranked, mostly mid heroes.
Also I've watched A lot of videos and streams where these pro players are playing these heroes.
I've seen every TI5 game, and everytime someone picks some of the heros on my hero pool, I watch their perspective, and I'm thinking that it's me who is playing there.
@ 1.4k mmr its so easy to read the game, but like I said if im good, doesnt always mean that my team is good does it? Again It's impossible to win 3v5 or 2v5, because there is always derps on both teams, sometimes on other team only, which happens to be my team ALWAYS.

Anyways, I'm really dedicated player, and I feel like other people just que ranked for the ♥♥♥♥ and giggles, and really dont care about rating, which ruins the game experience for others.

Cheers.

[cappilos]

Also one of the reasons I made this thread, is that I could get advice how to deal with this and is it normal.
So far I've gotten some really good constructive critic, which I really appreciate by the way.

[Flaminski]

It is normal, You'll find trash players in 5k too, what you can do now is to not give up, keep on playing, and if your team sucks help them, always help them when there is a war, don't ditch them or else you know the result, if you're really a 4k, then you can easilly beat the enemy team with any position

[XingFei.SG]

If you get idiot teammates all the time, maybe your skill bracket is idiot level as well.

[Multi]

Pick up a hero like meepo, or a hard carry. Someone who can completely dominate the game, with good pushing power as well as fighting power. In the low mmr brackets you cant depend on your teammates for squat. always assume that they are all terrible, and figure out how to win around that.

My personal favorite strategy for low mmr games: Go dusa, pick up butterfly, then go straight into rapier. play it super safe, and never go past your t2 towers unless you have vision or your ult is up and you have a tp. use the rapier to 1-shot jungle camps and melt ancients. Eventually pick up a heart or a bkb or a skadi, and then get a 2nd rapier. then go crit. then play it safe until the enemy screws up, and go from there.

I'm in this situation right now, and this is what's working for me. in my last few ranked matches ive only lost one, and even then i got 26 kills. I've pulled through matches where keeper of the light went mid and built like a right-click carry. i've pulled through matches where rubick bought no wards, picked up 5 bracers and mana boots, and went "lololol". Do something that will allow you to carry the entire game. that's the only way you can be completely safe. If you still cant do it you might belong in your mmr.