Dota 2 is going to loose new players

[GM-Lance]

I don't see Dota 2 surviving over the long haul unless they rework the matches. I was beating the hell out of the beginner mode. Then I went to the people matches and it was impossibly difficult. Advanced players don't get it. If you beat the hell out of new players they won't play. If they quite you are destroying your future. There needs to be something in between. I am done trying.

[GM-Lance]

Adding to my above post. I have asked six friends if they would like to meet me online for dota 2. The answer is all the same. It is too extreme. I totally get it now. I can see why they won't play.

[( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )]

Valve could give Dota 2 back to the community. Then community will form ladders where you can see where you are and how much you improved. Active admins would ban every smurf, every griefer and every boosted account from the ladder. The matches would be fair playing as solo.

[Taweret]

maybe join some Discord and ask if someone can coach you? this is the best way to get a grip on the game so someone can introduce you to it. dota is practice game so it has high entry curve, just like fightning games, street fighter etc you are going to lose a lot but that's the way you will learn. there is also spectate mode, you can search for whatever hero you want and watch the games it's also helpful in learning.

[GM-Lance]

The idea of ladders would definitely help. There needs to be more divisions rather than new person and everyone else.

[Си́нтез]

One constant in dota 2 that was there since the beginning is that you will get destroyed wheither you have 1 game or 15000 matches. There is no safe pool for anyone in this game

[Taweret]

definitely, getting into dota is much easier for people who are into rts games with micro/macro management, or isometric hack n slash games with inventory management, dodging and all that reflex play. so no one can blame your friends for not wanting to start playing dota, as this game is not for everyone, but for a specific target group of hardcore gamers that casuals who play overcooked have no interest in since they have no time, patience and discipline to practice and learn. i personally introduced my gf to dota and taught her solid basics and she's doing fine for someone with no rts experience, but she had interest in games like this before.

[Humble]

Dota 2 is not newbie friendly since forever, the amount of information you need to learn before "really play". There are a lot of "target lock" skill that you need to memorise. And because of the time game release. It is no way to match a fair match to newbie. You will met veteran, even the one that bad at a game still able to remember most of mechanic and skill in game. Only you have to play ranked match where "slightly" chance to getting a fair match.

In league of legends, there is not many target lock skills, So you don't need much to memorize, just dodge everything that fly toward you. So it is more friendly newbie, but it will get a lot harder when you met people more skills than you. But in Dota2 you still able to kill player with more skills easier than in Leagues.

To be honest, I don't have problem to play with players that have more skill than me. But i can't stand toxic or tilt players. I think at least they should match player with like more "social credit score" to play with each other. At least make the game more enjoyable even you lose. And by the game design to have social credit system. This is really gonna benefit community as a whole. Plus, This would encourage players to commend, report or dislike other players. Just make it less impact/credential when PARTY or players commend/report/dislike.

This will improve community a lot. And make the game more enjoyable even losing. This is probably make newbie want to learn a game more.

Also Nowadays match making is design as Real time KDA, The more K/DA you got last game will make you met players with same K/DA and combine to other teammates to make the game fair. This will prevent, ofc SMURF. Because they could only smurf for 1 or 2 games and they will met player with their level of skill. But this will make the match making swing a lot. So you will never stay in your level of game. But have to swing up and down to much worse or better players than you.

If you want a good teammate or don't want match to swing as much. You have to perfore as medicore as you can. But that is stupid right? because sometime you can kill many. And you wanna go rampage sometime. Too bad, This is matchmaking in games these day, Only thanks to smurf players.

[Ann☆ﾟ.*･｡]

welcome to dota 2. you've just stepped on a patch of grass.. there is still much to dig through underground. i suggest you grab some friends and play together

[Sleepless]

who cares about the new players

[AerSilver ♞]

Originally posted by GM-Lance:

I don't see Dota 2 surviving over the long haul unless they rework the matches. I was beating the hell out of the beginner mode. Then I went to the people matches and it was impossibly difficult. Advanced players don't get it. If you beat the hell out of new players they won't play. If they quite you are destroying your future. There needs to be something in between. I am done trying.

Rigged matchmaking will kick in and you will get players who carry you while you can sit back and contribute absolutely nothing,relax.
Forced 50% rule always applies to DOTA matchmaking

[raT]

only people who are addicted or think they can make money from this game playing.
this game is losing community slowly. maybe you don't see in numbers but i see what valve doing.
TI money mashine for valve? What valve do this year? That was the worst Ti ever with lowest prize pool. dota was known from TI now legend dieing.
Valve just go into marketing and stop working on games. Cs is casino no a game anymore.

[76561198110152881]

Originally posted by GM-Lance:

I don't see Dota 2 surviving over the long haul unless they rework the matches. I was beating the hell out of the beginner mode. Then I went to the people matches and it was impossibly difficult. Advanced players don't get it. If you beat the hell out of new players they won't play. If they quite you are destroying your future. There needs to be something in between. I am done trying.

old wise story
dota2 is idiotic careless dogshjt company which dont care about gaming

your are at wrong place
as old dota player, there is no good alternative for dota2
my best advie is, start enjoying something else;; game, hobby
gl hf

[Machine Gunn Eddie]

new players? they about loosin old players too

[Hadji*]

if someone is better than you then he'll beat you, either toughen up and get better or quit like a bich

[76561198110152881]

Originally posted by Hadji*:

if someone is better than you then he'll beat you, either toughen up and get better or quit like a bich

imho he is not talking about win/lose but about bad matchmaking