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Perfection 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 2:52
Unranked becomes UNPLAYABLE if your behaviour score is between 9000-10000.
As you may or may not know the most recent patch made it so new players will be matched against veteran players with high behaviour scores in unranked. When i first saw that post i didn't really think of it much and it didn't even came to my mind that it could cause a lot of issues. But it's safe to say that i was pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrong.
You will either have teammates/enemies that just installed the game (usually teammates in my case cause my luck is really that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bad) who are super toxic for some reason and don't have a clue how to play OR teammates/enemies who are veteran players with really high behaviour scores.
As a disclaimer, i'm not claiming to be PRO at the game or the most friendly, my solo MMR is around 4k and my behaviour score is 9888 at the time of writing this. I personally don't give a ♥♥♥♥ if you're A. Bad at the game or B. Toxic cause i can live with that as long as you are one of those. It becomes a real issue when you are both of them.
Here's an example of a game i just had --> Match ID : 3431104615
PS: i understand that i was playing at 5 AM EST time but still literally half the enemy team were people who didn't just install the game and the 4 people on my team were the complete opposite.
I'm just curious as why Valve is punishing people that have high behaviour scores.
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Alchemilla 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:25 
I've been ranting about this for a month now and people are just starting to notice...
Alchemilla 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:26 
引用自 Firebreak
Logic
Noobs are usually toxic right?
We were all noobs once
he doesn't mean that, he means it's a pain to play with players that just started the game while you're what like 5k hours into it.. its the frustration not the toxicity.
Fistraiser 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:27 
If you need to practise go play with bots.
Crimson 1 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:29 
引用自
引用自 Firebreak
Logic
Noobs are usually toxic right?
We were all noobs once
he doesn't mean that, he means it's a pain to play with players that just started the game while you're what like 5k hours into it.. its the frustration not the toxicity.
Then best solution would be to play ranked instead
Trust me , this noob team matchmaking program is only for unranked
When i keep on losing on unranked i move to ranked , im quite suprised how my losing streak flipped to winning streak
<3 Mia Khalifa <3 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:33 
hi, how to see behaviour score?
Alchemilla 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:35 
引用自 Firebreak
引用自
he doesn't mean that, he means it's a pain to play with players that just started the game while you're what like 5k hours into it.. its the frustration not the toxicity.
Then best solution would be to play ranked instead
Trust me , this noob team matchmaking program is only for unranked
When i keep on losing on unranked i move to ranked , im quite suprised how my losing streak flipped to winning streak
I dare to you make a new account and get calibrated going into ranked, you'll be paired with players that have over 1k hours in the game(40+ in game levels) this works both for ranked and unranked though the threshhold on ranked is much higher (not from lvl 1,instead the lowest is 20 since that's when these players get to play ranked first time) just because they're level 20 doesn't mean they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ready for ranked either

some of them calibrate as high as 2.5k and it's a pain for those on that bracket and anyone else they get paired with until they get to the rank where they actually belong.

hi, how to see behaviour score?
open console
>developer 1
>dota_game_account_debug

it read through it until you find behavior score.
最后由 Alchemilla 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:36
Absche 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:39 
引用自 BicBoi TC
引用自 absche
As a dedicated follower of science I cannot withstand any suggestions from people owning a phD. I withdraw all my past statements on the issue and apologize. The entire system is indeed flawed and unranked has become unplayable if your behavior score is between 9000-10000. As a consequence I will play unranked from now on only with friends.
RESPECT
It's easier than I thought - and it works. :-)
Thanks, Dr. Ambinder!
最后由 Absche 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:40
lumina 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:49 
引用自
引用自 Firebreak
Then best solution would be to play ranked instead
Trust me , this noob team matchmaking program is only for unranked
When i keep on losing on unranked i move to ranked , im quite suprised how my losing streak flipped to winning streak
I dare to you make a new account and get calibrated going into ranked, you'll be paired with players that have over 1k hours in the game(40+ in game levels) this works both for ranked and unranked though the threshhold on ranked is much higher (not from lvl 1,instead the lowest is 20 since that's when these players get to play ranked first time) just because they're level 20 doesn't mean they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ready for ranked either

some of them calibrate as high as 2.5k and it's a pain for those on that bracket and anyone else they get paired with until they get to the rank where they actually belong.

hi, how to see behaviour score?
open console
>developer 1
>dota_game_account_debug

it read through it until you find behavior score.

This update didn't change anything with your rant on ranked. That has always happened... also, smurfs are a thing...

Your crying doesn't even make sense.

Play with friends if you hate mm. That's the simple solution for everyone who complains. If you want to use an automated system to find teammates in a team game, you aren't going to like the results very often. This should be common sense.

Even the crying over noobs, or low level accounts, being paired with experienced players in unranked has been happening for years. Really this update changed nothing except ragey kids might get them less now.
最后由 lumina 编辑于; 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:49
Crimson 1 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:01 
引用自
引用自 Firebreak
Then best solution would be to play ranked instead
Trust me , this noob team matchmaking program is only for unranked
When i keep on losing on unranked i move to ranked , im quite suprised how my losing streak flipped to winning streak
I dare to you make a new account and get calibrated going into ranked, you'll be paired with players that have over 1k hours in the game(40+ in game levels) this works both for ranked and unranked though the threshhold on ranked is much higher (not from lvl 1,instead the lowest is 20 since that's when these players get to play ranked first time) just because they're level 20 doesn't mean they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ready for ranked either

some of them calibrate as high as 2.5k and it's a pain for those on that bracket and anyone else they get paired with until they get to the rank where they actually belong.

hi, how to see behaviour score?
open console
>developer 1
>dota_game_account_debug

it read through it until you find behavior score.
Oh i know about that
Mine is 5500 but that doesnt really affect my mmr
I got +600 in 2 months i think , now im at 3.6k
For some reason i got best team on 4500 behaviour score , they always roam and help mid
Then i just snow ball everyone with my carry CK and solo win the game
Crimson 1 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:03 
引用自 lumina
引用自
I dare to you make a new account and get calibrated going into ranked, you'll be paired with players that have over 1k hours in the game(40+ in game levels) this works both for ranked and unranked though the threshhold on ranked is much higher (not from lvl 1,instead the lowest is 20 since that's when these players get to play ranked first time) just because they're level 20 doesn't mean they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ready for ranked either

some of them calibrate as high as 2.5k and it's a pain for those on that bracket and anyone else they get paired with until they get to the rank where they actually belong.


open console
>developer 1
>dota_game_account_debug

it read through it until you find behavior score.

This update didn't change anything with your rant on ranked. That has always happened... also, smurfs are a thing...

Your crying doesn't even make sense.

Play with friends if you hate mm. That's the simple solution for everyone who complains. If you want to use an automated system to find teammates in a team game, you aren't going to like the results very often. This should be common sense.

Even the crying over noobs, or low level accounts, being paired with experienced players in unranked has been happening for years. Really this update changed nothing except ragey kids might get them less now.

Just ignore this kid , read all of his posts , he always said something along the line of " valve is always right and you should stop crying "

This kid suffers brain degeneration from playing too much tier 1 difficulity heroes like viper ( for 400 match )
Alchemilla 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:14 
引用自 Firebreak
引用自 lumina

This update didn't change anything with your rant on ranked. That has always happened... also, smurfs are a thing...

Your crying doesn't even make sense.

Play with friends if you hate mm. That's the simple solution for everyone who complains. If you want to use an automated system to find teammates in a team game, you aren't going to like the results very often. This should be common sense.

Even the crying over noobs, or low level accounts, being paired with experienced players in unranked has been happening for years. Really this update changed nothing except ragey kids might get them less now.

Just ignore this kid , read all of his posts , he always said something along the line of " valve is always right and you should stop crying "

This kid suffers brain degeneration from playing too much tier 1 difficulity heroes like viper ( for 400 match )
Yeah I've been through his bullcrap.. that's why i didn't bother to rewrite the long ass explaination I did for him and just told you to try it yourself and prove it by doing it yourself.. lol ~Lucky you though I'm in MMR hell right now
Perfection 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:20 
引用自 Echo Stomper
If you need to practise go play with bots.
Can't do quests against bots :P
BossGalaga 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:33 
引用自 Firebreak
引用自 lumina

This update didn't change anything with your rant on ranked. That has always happened... also, smurfs are a thing...

Your crying doesn't even make sense.

Play with friends if you hate mm. That's the simple solution for everyone who complains. If you want to use an automated system to find teammates in a team game, you aren't going to like the results very often. This should be common sense.

Even the crying over noobs, or low level accounts, being paired with experienced players in unranked has been happening for years. Really this update changed nothing except ragey kids might get them less now.

Just ignore this kid , read all of his posts , he always said something along the line of " valve is always right and you should stop crying "

This kid suffers brain degeneration from playing too much tier 1 difficulity heroes like viper ( for 400 match )

Every thread you post in you seem to have some extreme reading difficulties. Nowhere did he say that "valve is always right." New players have always been matched with/against more experienced players. The "noob patch" didn't change that.

This doesn't force 5k players to play with 1k players. You still get matched based on your skill level and matchmaking doesn't now nor has it ever matched players based on their profile level or how many hours they have played.

You already know this and it's been explained to you several times so I can assume at this point that you're just trolling to be a troll. Every time this guy posts something you have to post some bullcrap about "hue hue well you spam viper" when you hero spam just as much yourself.

Speaking of ignoring people, you're the one that was just recently posting your conspiracy theories about how Valve forces you to lose if you win 5 games in a row and then you claimed you later claimed you were on a 10 game winning streak which either means you're full of crap...or you're full of crap.
Alchemilla 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 11:42 
引用自 BossGalaga
引用自 Firebreak

Just ignore this kid , read all of his posts , he always said something along the line of " valve is always right and you should stop crying "

This kid suffers brain degeneration from playing too much tier 1 difficulity heroes like viper ( for 400 match )

Every thread you post in you seem to have some extreme reading difficulties. Nowhere did he say that "valve is always right." New players have always been matched with/against more experienced players. The "noob patch" didn't change that.

This doesn't force 5k players to play with 1k players. You still get matched based on your skill level and matchmaking doesn't now nor has it ever matched players based on their profile level or how many hours they have played.

You already know this and it's been explained to you several times so I can assume at this point that you're just trolling to be a troll. Every time this guy posts something you have to post some bullcrap about "hue hue well you spam viper" when you hero spam just as much yourself.

Speaking of ignoring people, you're the one that was just recently posting your conspiracy theories about how Valve forces you to lose if you win 5 games in a row and then you claimed you later claimed you were on a 10 game winning streak which either means you're full of crap...or you're full of crap.
He's saying that's what the context of the posts of Lumina is... and I urge you to try for yourself..
go make a dummy account get it to 20 calibrate and find yourself ranked with high leveled users(a.k.a. more experienced users by hours played) as for unranked they explicitly said "We will match new players with old players that have high behavior scores" no where did it say anything about what skill bract said "old player" is. Obviously old players are in the higher teir skill bracket and not the low slumps where most of the toxicity lies (by theory of deduction.).
BossGalaga 2017 年 9 月 8 日 上午 11:51 
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go make a dummy account get it to 20 calibrate and find yourself ranked with high leveled users(a.k.a. more experienced users by hours played) as for unranked they explicitly said "We will match new players with old players that have high behavior scores" no where did it say anything about what skill bract said "old player" is. Obviously old players are in the higher teir skill bracket and not the low slumps where most of the toxicity lies (by theory of deduction.).

That's wrong in so many ways. First of all, before I calibrated in Dota 2 I was matched against players with hundreds and even thousands of hours and that was years ago before the noob update so like I said, players with lots of hours getting matched with/against players with not as much isn't anything new.

Secondly, you're incredibly wrong about "old players." Being an "old player" doesn't magically put you in a "higher tier skill bracket." There are countless "old players" in normal skill, in 1k and even below 1k with thousands of hours played.

Players are still getting matched according to their hidden MMR or actual MMR.
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