I do not understand this game at all.

[monk]

So, I've just put 15 hours into this game over the course of the weekend and I really want to like it, however there are some things that really bug me.

The first is the lack of any meaningful offline game modes. I really like the game engine and the way matches are played as human vs CPU, but without a career mode or booking mode it feels utterly pointless. I'd love to be able to create a wrestler and earn edit points to upgrade him whilst working my way up the ladder to win a title. It's 2018 and that should be a given in any sports or wrestling game.

Even tournaments and leagues get boring after a while - I hate that I have to either COM skip every CPU match or watch each one. Why can't I choose on a match by match basis? I might want to watch CM Punk vs Shawn Michaels, but skip Giant Gonzalez vs Mark Henry!

I also find the match types to be kind of irrelevant, compare this with MDickies Wrestling Revolution 3D where you can set all kinds of stipulations as crazy as a 30 man Tables match battle royale! Even a barbed wire deathmatch doesnt seem much different compares to a normal singles match.

CPU vs CPU matches and running my own fed inside my imagination doesnt really hold much appeal for me in this game, when you consider there are other games available that have booking modes. If I want to sit and watch wrestling I have a WWE network subscription and can watch WCW Thunder any time I want.

Editing the CPU logic and building wrestlers is fun, and it is good to see how the logic plays out in game. I like this when I take control of a wrestler and play against logic I have set up on the CPU player, otherwise I don't see the point. Sure I might get a 100% match but after that the game just ends and it doesnt matter like it would without a booking mode. I havent played a wrestlemania game where the match outcome meant so little, and you just went right back to the title screen after a match since WWF Wrestlemania on the SNES.

I really wish there were more people online.

The times I have been able to get matches online it has been fun, CPU vs CPU online is fun because I have no idea what to expect from player creations and it is fun to see those matches play out. Also, I have met some great people online and we have had some fun talks about wrestling prior to our matches. So why is online mode like a ghost town? It is suprisingly difficult to find a match given that this discussion forum and the workshop are super busy and I thought getting online matches would be super easy. Is everyone really just sat simming CPU vs CPU by themselves?

I can see massive potential in this game, but right now I feel slightly misled by all the positive reviews this game has recieved.

Am I doing it wrong?

Are some of the features i'm looking for in a pro wrestling game eventually coming?

[Beyond]

The features you are looking for are eventually coming. But as for everything you said, the reviews are made by people who've been playing Fire Pro for years, and are great supporters of the game, who have no issues with the things you've said because you're obviously seeking out further expectations, comparing it to games that are way different compared to Fire Pro. Nothing wrong with that at all though. I'd say to keep giving the game a chance. After all, there's no refunding past 15 hours anyways. There's more coming to the game. There aren't much people online because the netcode is iffy.

And also, it isn't just about simming CPU against CPU.. people, like myself, put a majority of our time into creating wrestler after wrestler and carefully placing in the most accurate logic, simming matches to test if they're gotten right. So comparing it to the WWE Network is a bit absurd... because we're not watching just for nothing.

[Eddie]

I am new myself, in terms of this games community. However I will try to answer some stuff

1./4?
The Promoter mode DLC seems to be what you are looking for. It seems to cover the problem I am noticing here. Upgrading may be story mode(s). However I am not sure of this.

2.
I dId not know of this! maybe set match speed to 800 if you are able.

3. Tables to not exist in the game. It cannot be done in the engine. However with the CarlZilla modsuite you can have 30-100-150 battleroyales.

5.
There is a small online community. I had this very issue. This came seems to be largely in its online community. FPWARENA.come seems to be where I found the actual "game".

I dont think you are doing it wrong. Its just that people seem to be elsewhere.

[Gentlemensgentleman]

It seems your expectations may have been a little too high. I think you are looking for a game to PLAY but has the same in depth creation. I think most people prefer to create and sim. The series hasn't had a career mode in quite some time. But the devs have planned for a DLC coming with a career mode.

In regards to this game, wait for the promoter and New Japan DLC to come out. Watch videos of others playing he DLC before you get something you don't want. Unfortunately, there are no other games upcoming that have those features.

[ZenMonkey]

I don't know what to tell you. I love the game as it is. The UI needs fixing and the promoter dlc will add more fun to it, imo the game itself is fished.

This game is a dream come true for me. I've been playing wrestling video games since the 80s, I always wanted a game like this. I can put what ever and as many Wrestlers as I want in the game. I can make any federation I want; real or made up. I can put me and my friends in the game and run our own federations. Someone wins the title they keep the title until someone beats them, it tracks their wins. The fighting mechanics is second to none.

Fire Pro Wrestling Worlds and Fire Pro Wrestling Returns are 2 of the best wrestling games ever made imo.

Sometimes less is more then you could ever want.

[View The Phenom]

People play the game too, just not online. The poor connection quality makes it more trouble than it's worth, and setting up a good edit with good logic, the appropriate difficulty and speed setting (according to preference) makes PVP largely unnecessary. After playing a few matches online early in the game's life cycle, I abandoned it due to how unstable the experience was; and it didn't really provide a greater challenge than what I got vs the CPU.

It's more about creating your own experiences with custom rosters, rings, etc and playing solo tbh. The features are there to create your own stories/federations etc, it's just not in one big mode yet.

For example, you would like a mode that allows you to earn edit points as you work through a promotion and eventually win a title; you can do that now with random selection, a custom roster and some personal rules on how points are earned based on wins; eventually you can challenge a determined champion for the title.

And the mods available pretty much make it a completely different game; you can find just about anything with mods. Want a booking mode that tracks stats and create match cards over-time? There's a mod for that.

With all that being said, it's not for everyone. Maybe a game with more set features and modes would be a better choice.

[Burnt_RAM_]

judging by the wall of text you just wrote, mostly complaining, it sounds like the game isnt for you. you need to accept that and move on instead of crying about it looking for sympathy.

lotta people dont realize this is mainly played as a sim due to the in depth cpu logic... if youre looking for career mode or playable online this isnt for you. the game is pretty bare bones in that respect.

so either return in a year and see if you like any DLC or stick to wwe2k.

[monk]

Postat inițial de Phantom Supersystem:

judging by the wall of text you just wrote, mostly complaining, it sounds like the game isnt for you. you need to accept that and move on instead of crying about it looking for sympathy.

lotta people dont realize this is mainly played as a sim due to the in depth cpu logic... if youre looking for career mode or playable online this isnt for you. the game is pretty bare bones in that respect.

so either return in a year and see if you like any DLC or stick to wwe2k.

Crying? Looking for sympathy? Not at all!

I think it is a good game, I just feel like it needs a couple of extra things to be even better and it is frustrating that a few of them are relatively simple things that are missing.

If this had some form of career mode I would probably never get anything else done!

Simming matches on my own doesnt really do a lot for me, however I have spent a good amount of time simming matches online and really enjoyed it, it is just unfortunate that too often I search for an online game with no luck. I met somebody in the chat the other night and we talked about wrestling and essentially booked a card. We had four 95% or above matches in a row, including a 100% match and were both marking out after. Creating experiences is always better when you share them with someone IMO.

I've just found the mods by Carlzilla and so I may have a play around with them to see what I can do to further my enjoyment of the game.

[Burnt_RAM_]

this game does one thing and it does it wonderfully... simming. thats its main selling point. why cant people understand this?

a lot of people are looking for some wwe thq game with 1000 game modes... thats not what this is. its essentially an indie game for a niche fanbase... its gonna be BARE BONES.

if youre looking for more wait for DLC

[monk]

Postat inițial de Phantom Supersystem:

this game does one thing and it does it wonderfully... simming. thats its main selling point. why cant people understand this?

a lot of people are looking for some wwe thq game with 1000 game modes... thats not what this is. its essentially an indie game for a niche fanbase... its gonna be BARE BONES.

if youre looking for more wait for DLC

I think this game does more than one thing well actually, I quite enjoy playing the actual matches, my only bugbear with it is that whether I win or lose, or get 100% match rating does not matter. I want to be rewarded I guess.

Like I said, I've enjoyed simming online vs other peoples creations as I find the social aspect of that enjoyable.

[Timberwolf]

Postat inițial de Phantom Supersystem:

this game does one thing and it does it wonderfully... simming. thats its main selling point. why cant people understand this?

a lot of people are looking for some wwe thq game with 1000 game modes... thats not what this is. its essentially an indie game for a niche fanbase... its gonna be BARE BONES.

if youre looking for more wait for DLC

Phantom speaks the truth.

The whole point of Fire Pro Wrestling World is simming. There is nothing like making two edits, give them a moveset and logic, then watching them put on a 5 star match.

There is sooooo much that one can do with Fire Pro Wrestling World.

Wanna have a boxing match? Done.

Wanna have see Connor McGregor take on Floyd Mayweather in the octagon? Done.

Wanna see the Greatest Royal Rumble? With Carl's mod, it can be done.

This game is not meant to play online. Like everyone else said, simming is where it's at. If you want to see your edit vs. someone else's, download that person's edit and sim the match offline.

I hope you continue to give Fire Pro Wrestling World a chance, Monk. Got any questions, feel free to ask :-)

[monk]

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Postat inițial de Phantom Supersystem:

this game does one thing and it does it wonderfully... simming. thats its main selling point. why cant people understand this?

a lot of people are looking for some wwe thq game with 1000 game modes... thats not what this is. its essentially an indie game for a niche fanbase... its gonna be BARE BONES.

if youre looking for more wait for DLC

Phantom speaks the truth.

The whole point of Fire Pro Wrestling World is simming. There is nothing like making two edits, give them a moveset and logic, then watching them put on a 5 star match.

There is sooooo much that one can do with Fire Pro Wrestling World.

Wanna have a boxing match? Done.

Wanna have see Connor McGregor take on Floyd Mayweather in the octagon? Done.

Wanna see the Greatest Royal Rumble? With Carl's mod, it can be done.

This game is not meant to play online. Like everyone else said, simming is where it's at. If you want to see your edit vs. someone else's, download that person's edit and sim the match offline.

I hope you continue to give Fire Pro Wrestling World a chance, Monk. Got any questions, feel free to ask :-)

Thanks for the kind words, Timberwolf.

I'm up to 37 hours played, so it's fair to say i'm giving it a chance!

I've also made a couple of friends from playing online and we are having great fun booking cards. I pick a wrestler, they pick somebody they think will make a good match with that guy and we see how it plays out. The fun part comes in discussing the match afterwards and the parts that made us say "wow". I think I would miss that if simming alone.

There were four of us simming battle royales tonight at one point too. If you get together with like minded individuals then simming online is great fun IMO. This game has a fantastic community, which is why I guess i'm surprised there arent many people going online.

If anyone reading this wants to join in and do some online simming with us please add me as a friend.

Regarding actually playing of the game, I've set up a league which is essentially the best guys from WWF in the 1980s. I've cranked up the difficulty and am attempting to win it with my Hogan edit.

Whilst simming might be "where its at", I feel also enjoy the actual gameplay aspect and would love to see it fleshed out a bit more. Phantom said the game does "one thing", but I feel thats doing the game a slight disservice, as it works fine as a fighting game too!

I guess I'm just slightly dissappointed that the game has a lot of potential that is currently unfulfilled, but I look forward to future DLC/mods that build on what currently exists.

[sofia ciel]

If it means anything, the director of the game has said that he's well aware of the fact that Fire Pro represents an "old fashioned" kind of wrestling product, and that he wants to think of ways to freshen things up post-PS4 release. One idea he had was a Gauntlet match... which could mean a few things. For one, it could be a standard gauntlet, or possibly the "tag team turmoil" gimmick, both of which are pretty much the same.

It could also be a clever way of referring to a Royal Rumble match without using a WWE-copyrighted term. With New Japan having their January 4 1-Minute Rambo--I mean Rumble matches before the start of Wrestle Kingdom proper, it might be a worthwhile addition. Not only that, but the mod suite made by Carlzilla also includes a rumble match with effectively infinite competitors now, so it's not something that the engine they built can't handle!

[View The Phenom]

*obligatory request for TLC, HIAC and Ladder Matches*

[Beyond]

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*obligatory request for TLC, HIAC and Ladder Matches*

Maybe up the timed battle royals to 30 wrestlers with theme songs every entrant? hur-dur.

[View The Phenom]

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*obligatory request for TLC, HIAC and Ladder Matches*

Maybe up the timed battle royals to 30 wrestlers with theme songs every entrant? hur-dur.

Too old fashioned, if we want to freshen things up clearly we need the WWE gimmick matches!

Seriously though, I would take an actual team gauntlet elimination mode. Put a team of wrestlers together, 1v1 matches until a team runs out of opponents.