Renaming Moves- lariats vs. clothesline?

[rippermadrox]

I'm trying to rename the moves more accurately, and the lariats are bothering me. My understanding is that straight arm=lariat & crooked arm=clothesline. Some of these definately feel more like clotheslines than lariats. Any good rename suggestions?

Flying Lariat, the corner lariat, & the Corner to Centers Lariats all seem more like Clotheslines to me.

[Carlzilla]

I think the distinction is pretty much non-existant. I've heard your striaght arm thing, I've heard lariats have a whipping motion, clotheslines do not, and about 3 other silly ways to tell them apart, but ultimately none of them actually hold up.

They're the same, it just depends on what you want to call it.

[Mister Fire Pro]

Lariat and Clothesline are the same thing. Somebody even asked Lance Storm, who was a pro wrestler and has one of the most famous wrestling schools, what was the difference and he said none. Is like the pele kick and the overhead kick. The name is simple preference affected by the wrestler that uses the move (Fin Bálor calls overhead kick and AJ Styles calls péle kick); and localisition ( in Japan clothesline is rarely used, instead they call lariat, while in the USA clothesline and lariat are both used). Then you have the term brainbuster: in USA this term is used when you are doing vertical suplex and drop your opponent on his neck or his upper back, but in Japan they use the term for every vertical suplex even if they fall on they're back.

[Gentlemensgentleman]

The terms have become muddied and interchangeable. Wrestling isn’t technical anymore and hasn’t been for a long time. When I think of a lariat, I think of Stan Hansen. Lariats are supposed to be stationary. Like when Luke Harper throws a discus lariat. You never heard of a spinning clothesline or a discus clothesline because such a thing doesn’t exist. Clotheslines are supposed to be running.

It’s like asking the difference between a hurricanrana and a frankensteiner. There is a difference but the terms are muddied and have became interchangeable.

[rippermadrox]

Awesome. Thanks guys.

[Carlzilla]

Publicado originalmente por Gentlemensgentleman:

The terms have become muddied and interchangeable. Wrestling isn’t technical anymore and hasn’t been for a long time. When I think of a lariat, I think of Stan Hansen. Lariats are supposed to be stationary. Like when Luke Harper throws a discus lariat. You never heard of a spinning clothesline or a discus clothesline because such a thing doesn’t exist. Clotheslines are supposed to be running.

It’s like asking the difference between a hurricanrana and a frankensteiner. There is a difference but the terms are muddied and have became interchangeable.

Stan Hansen runs and delivers the Lariat all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time. It's an arbitrary, and pointless distinction. The name stems from the cowboy gimmick, but it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clothesline for all intents and purposes.

[justabrush]

Publicado originalmente por Ayn Rand:

Lariat and Clothesline are the same thing. Somebody even asked Lance Storm, who was a pro wrestler and has one of the most famous wrestling schools, what was the difference and he said none. Is like the pele kick and the overhead kick. The name is simple preference affected by the wrestler that uses the move (Fin Bálor calls overhead kick and AJ Styles calls péle kick); and localisition ( in Japan clothesline is rarely used, instead they call lariat, while in the USA clothesline and lariat are both used). Then you have the term brainbuster: in USA this term is used when you are doing vertical suplex and drop your opponent on his neck or his upper back, but in Japan they use the term for every vertical suplex even if they fall on they're back.

Well come on now...The Pele is much different then Finns Overhead Kick...well they are similar I shouldn't say "much" different but if you show a person the two separate moves they will be able to tell you that they are obviously different. Let's be fair to the P1, my good man.

[cackimon]

For all intents and purposes they are the same thing. However, the differences seem to be mostly regional. In Japan its a lariat and in the states its a clothesline. I was also under the impression a clothesline is where you just hold your arm out and run into thr guy the way an actual clothesline would. With a lariat you actually strike through the opponent with your arm.

[View The Phenom]

In game, if you're looking at running lariats vs clothelines there's only a difference when they miss. Lariats will just whiff and the attacker will stop, clothelines will have the attacker stick his arm out and run all the way to the ropes.

[LostFailure]

Announcers screaming "LARIATOOOO!" does sound better than "CLOTHESLINE-OOOO!"

[Gentlemensgentleman]

Publicado originalmente por Carlzilla:

Stan Hansen runs and delivers the Lariat all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time. It's an arbitrary, and pointless distinction. The name stems from the cowboy gimmick, but it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clothesline for all intents and purposes.

No it doesn't. That is what we call revisionism and rewriting history. Stan Hansen said himself that he learned the lariat from Bruiser Brody!

[rushydarabbit]

Clothesline: Have you ever seen a kid running in the backyard that doesn't see the clotheline hanging there and almost cuts his own head off? That is where the wrestling move Clothesline gets its name from. The opponent runs into the arm and his own speed and momentum is used against him.

Lariat: Is more of an attacking move where the attacker runs towards the opponent and wacks the hell out of him with his arm. Attacker is using more force instead of waiting for the opponent to run into his arm.. he brings the arm to him. (swinging arm like a haymaker while standing in one place is also a Lariat)

Funny thing.. the "Clothesline from Hell" by JBL is actually a Lariat.

Just ask Stan Hansen.

[za warudo champ jonny d]

my dad invented the clothesline and my dad also invented the lariat.

coincidence?

[rushydarabbit]

Publicado originalmente por JonnyD:

my dad invented the clothesline and my dad also invented the lariat.

coincidence?

that's a good question!

[krangledangle]

I always figured the clothesline was simulating getting hit by its namesake... so stiff, straight arm into the opponent’s neck. Like if you ran into a clothesline. Never was sure what the lariat added to it - but figured it was more a joke arm-type strike

[Wolfe]

A clothesline/ lariat has been around for as long as man has been around and fighting and play fighting one another. Hansen would have to be pretty dumb to not already have instinctive knowledge of that move in his reportoire like most 5 year old boys do when play fighting.

A clothesline/lariat is basically as ubiquitous as a punch, it's been around forvever way before wrestling existed and has been among bullies' standard clobbering moves for thousands of years.

Brody might have taught Hansen how to refine it, but he did not teach him how to do it. It's such an instinctive move I bet every single one of you here used a clothesline at one point in a play fight as a kid even if you watched wrestling or not.

As others have said, its modern name is suely taken from the similar effect of running into a real clothesline by the neck, again something that people will have been doing for centuries, so clothesline is likely the older and original name for the move.

Lariat to me is just a a running or lunging clothesline, can't see much difference to bother with a diferent name.