Anyone else treasuring the game more now?

[sp⟡rkly]

After the astoundingly horrendous release of Rogue Core I thought it would be nice to go back and appreciate the lightning in a bottle that is DRG. Sure Deep Rock could have some more polish and certainly more support, but with how badly received Rogue Core is there's a chance they maybe start to reconsider their dumbass free season pass strategy so they can support the game that is actually worth supporting.

[Chris!!]

They have said they will return to developing for DRG once Rogue Core is out of EA and doesn't need the full attention of the studio. They aren't going to just abandon Rogue Core just because people keep whining about it, that's not how it works lmao.

[Phytophyte]

Fingers crossed, maybe Rogue Core will help Ghost Ship learn why Deep Rock Galactic succeeded; then when they come back, they can actually make DRG a better game instead of just running the content mill for another few seasons.

[Grim]

I don't think it made me appreciate it more but then again it was already up in my favorite games of all time lol.

Truly though, RC was clearly not made for, or accepted by, the people still enjoying DRG today. I wasn't sure about this initially so i gave it a few more days since i first noticed it to shake out....but the player numbers for DRG did not budge during RC's release. The steamdb numbers didn't move an iota for DRG's average daily player count when RC released.

Now that might be great news for GSG for all i know...it means they pulled in new fans, probably of roguelike games and probably some people who played drg for 10-20 hours and liked it but moved on fairly quick. But what this basically means is their core audience has no interest for the new game for most part.

So they're working with a new audience and they aren't going to have any history or goodwill banked with them and unless they get whats selling that game perfect, the rogue like systems and such, that audience is going to walk away. In fact roguelike players in general never stay with any game very long anyway so even if its good i have a hard time seeing it hold a longterm audience. We just have to hope the potential future updates we might get for DRG aren't impacted by RC's performance because i'm sure they're counting on it paying some bills since they've been developing it for years.

[Clockwork]

When I asked for a closed alpha access, I very well knew I wouldn't be interested by Rogue Core.

After playing it, it only confirmed what I had already guessed from what little promo material was available on the store page itself: I'm not the intended audience.

So I just kept playing DRG all the same. Nothing changed. Although I can't help but wonder if all my bug reports were useful, or if they're going to sit in a backlog forever.

[Azure]

No, the game is the game as good as its always been.

Rogue Core is a different game in the same setting (Much the same as Chimera Squad is to Xcom 2 and got a similar amount of noise from the same type of people)

In terms of what other games do DRGs way of seasons is very player friendly and its nice to have that in a world of greed more so now with the ability to go back and play older ones.

[EricR]

Originally posted by turbo:

After the astoundingly horrendous release of Rogue Core I thought it would be nice to go back and appreciate the lightning in a bottle that is DRG. Sure Deep Rock could have some more polish and certainly more support, but with how badly received Rogue Core is there's a chance they maybe start to reconsider their dumbass free season pass strategy so they can support the game that is actually worth supporting.

I'm kind of on the opposite side...

Tbh I was already playing less and less DRG anyways. I haven't touched it for a week now, while I was used to play it daily.
Then all that Rogue Core thing and Ghostship annoying marketing, DRG Discord being semi-hijacked by it, etc just leaves me with a bad after taste from the devs in general and surely didn't help.

[WINNNDIESEL]

Originally posted by Chris!!:

They aren't going to just abandon Rogue Core just because people keep whining about it, that's not how it works lmao.

And how do you know that? You worked at one of those studios or just an expert in pretending like you know how things are?
Please elaborate, why is that they won't dump a product that is not selling well, with bad reviews, and generally hated by GSG's customers.

They dumped successful DRG for no reason, the ♥♥♥♥ you even talking about.

They will dump RC at any point, because of how they are. Ignorant, and blind.

[Clockwork]

Originally posted by WINNNDIESEL:

And how do you know that? You worked at one of those studios or just an expert in pretending like you know how things are?
Please elaborate, why is that they won't dump a product that is not selling well, with bad reviews, and generally hated by GSG's customers.

It's called Sunk Cost Fallacy.

[WINNNDIESEL]

Originally posted by Clockwork:

Originally posted by WINNNDIESEL:

And how do you know that? You worked at one of those studios or just an expert in pretending like you know how things are?
Please elaborate, why is that they won't dump a product that is not selling well, with bad reviews, and generally hated by GSG's customers.

It's called Sunk Cost Fallacy.

Again, you are talking "logic/rationality" where is none.

[Clockwork]

I merely shared a cognitive bias which may or may not be a possible path for Rogue Core. Whether or not they go down that path is moot.

[#Glaude#]

It is time to come back to DRG, i hate Core and Refund this not fun Game.

[Caszama]

yeah DRG will always has a special place in my heart, now more than ever. I don't know what they were thinking going with a roguelite when their player base clearly loves exploration horde shooters. Like, read the room, devs

And as someone who has played roguelites off and on, I've seen people playing Rogue core and even by roguelite standards it just doesn't look good. It looks like something that's trying to reinvent the wheel and failing badly at it with a 58% approval rating.

[EricR]

Rating and reviews doesn't mean much and the devs probably knows it and don't care.

And that's what happen when you try to lure your actual customers to buy another unrelated product using shady tactics and marketing. You get bomb reviews and comments.

Without mentioning the deception with DRG Season 6 IMO... it just adds to the negative perception of Rogue Core.
A lot of people were waiting / expecting big changes for DRG, even a DRG 2, but they got underwhelming content with S6 and now Rogue Core.

[Grim]

Originally posted by Caszama:

And as someone who has played roguelites off and on, I've seen people playing Rogue core and even by roguelite standards it just doesn't look good. It looks like something that's trying to reinvent the wheel and failing badly at it with a 58% approval rating.

I'm a fan of roguelikes too and RC didn't really appeal to me either. There are fun unique roguelikes but the problem is they got popular and now its a chore to separate the slop trying to cash in on the genre from whats actually good. RC just isn't that good from the roguelike perspective and the DRG elements feel worse than the original.

Honestly i feel like they've just embarrassed themselves by letting a third party release a better roguelike with their ip just prior to them launching their own worse attempt.

[Qua2ar]

For me it is the opposite, I hate GSG and this game and rogue core even more now, I made a mistake buying the support dlc. I never learn, where is this pic with the "fell for it again award" i need that right now.