Locked at 60 fps, whats the issue ? (FPS LOCKED)

[76561198383104026]

I thought that was the sweet spot to reach the way gamesmedia talks about 60 fps all the time, trust me you dont want to play an old version of Quake 2 that runs 200-300 fps!

[Minneyar]

60 FPS is basically considered the standard acceptable frame rate for PC games. Most monitors have a 60 Hz refresh rate, which means that if you want V-Sync on (which you do, because otherwise you get screen tearing), if a game doesn't run at at least 60 FPS, it will be capped at 30 FPS so that it's evenly divisible into 60. The difference between 60 FPS and 30 FPS is easy to notice and can make a real difference for frame-precise inputs that are required in some games.

On the other hand, some people have monitors with faster refresh rates; 144 Hz isn't uncommon. It's not as big a difference, but it's still noticeable. Why wouldn't you want to play Quake 2 at 300 FPS if you could?

[😎Macula😎]

Well considering you can uncap with FAR framerate shows the danger of not able to advance in game.

Bugs can be various that simply doesn't allow you to advance in story or quests even some simple actions like riding not mention robots going out of bonds where you can't hurt them.

This tells me they tied everything to framerate and if they would need to rework entire game just to allow you to uncap framerate. I just don't see that from major devs and publishers to bother with that unless they going to remaster game anyway (not even mentioning that they didn't even patched PC related issues yet).

[Aemony]

Don't uncap the framerate. Leave it at 60 FPS if you want a stable gaming experience.

[😎Macula😎]

Originally posted by Aemony:

Don't uncap the framerate. Leave it at 60 FPS if you want a stable gaming experience.

In nutshell. Which is why they prob didn't uncapped it officially in first place.

[76561198383104026]

Originally posted by Minneyar:

60 FPS is basically considered the standard acceptable frame rate for PC games. Most monitors have a 60 Hz refresh rate, which means that if you want V-Sync on (which you do, because otherwise you get screen tearing), if a game doesn't run at at least 60 FPS, it will be capped at 30 FPS so that it's evenly divisible into 60. The difference between 60 FPS and 30 FPS is easy to notice and can make a real difference for frame-precise inputs that are required in some games.

On the other hand, some people have monitors with faster refresh rates; 144 Hz isn't uncommon. It's not as big a difference, but it's still noticeable. Why wouldn't you want to play Quake 2 at 300 FPS if you could?

Here on my standard monitor its quite the opposite: I better turn off that V-Sync or the games will go into 30 fps mode so I leave it off and no screen tearing or sometimes very little, but nothing worth shouting about imo. I dont want to play Quake 2 at 300 fps as I deem it unplayable.

[Aemony]

If vsync lowers the FPS to 30 then it is because it can not keep a stable 60 FPS, and therefor must limit the framerate to match every other refresh cycle (so 30 FPS). You can enable Adaptive Sync in your display driver settings. This will disable vsync automatically whenever the framerate goes below 60 FPS and re-enable it when it hits 60 FPS.

Ergo, tearing free at 60 FPS and some tearing at below 60 FPS.

[Aemony]

Also, if you're a new player then I highly recommend taking a look at my guide, as it might be useful for you.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=914437196

[Minneyar]

Originally posted by Harry Callahan 1:

Here on my standard monitor its quite the opposite: I better turn off that V-Sync or the games will go into 30 fps mode so I leave it off and no screen tearing or sometimes very little, but nothing worth shouting about imo. I dont want to play Quake 2 at 300 fps as I deem it unplayable.

I think you misunderstood what I said. Like Aemony said, if your frame rate drops to 30 FPS when V-Sync is on, that means your hardware isn't good enough to run the game at a stable 60 FPS.

How is Quake 2 at 300 FPS is unplayable? I never was a big fan of Quake 2, but every now and then I like to go back to the original Quake and enjoy how buttery smooth it is at 500+ FPS. (not that any monitor can actually refresh that fast)

[76561198383104026]

Originally posted by Minneyar:

Originally posted by Harry Callahan 1:

Here on my standard monitor its quite the opposite: I better turn off that V-Sync or the games will go into 30 fps mode so I leave it off and no screen tearing or sometimes very little, but nothing worth shouting about imo. I dont want to play Quake 2 at 300 fps as I deem it unplayable.

I think you misunderstood what I said. Like Aemony said, if your frame rate drops to 30 FPS when V-Sync is on, that means your hardware isn't good enough to run the game at a stable 60 FPS.

You mean my monitor is not good enough because I have pretty good hardware if I may say so myself like GTX 1070, 16 GB RAM, AMD FX-8370.

[Aemony]

Originally posted by Harry Callahan 1:

You mean my monitor is not good enough because I have pretty good hardware if I may say so myself like GTX 1070, 16 GB RAM, AMD FX-8370.

Download and use FAR, lower Global Illumination to High, maybe Medium. Be sure to disable Anti-Aliasing in the game (High preset defaults to 8x MSAA, which tanks performance) since it's useless as long as Ambient Occlusion is enabled (which includes a high quality SMAA filter).

[Minneyar]

Originally posted by Harry Callahan 1:

You mean my monitor is not good enough because I have pretty good hardware if I may say so myself like GTX 1070, 16 GB RAM, AMD FX-8370.

That's pretty good, but a 1070 is not good enough to run Automata at a constant 60 FPS with no drops if you have all of the in-game options maxed out. It's not just you; the game isn't optimized particularly well.

[76561198383104026]

Originally posted by Minneyar:

Originally posted by Harry Callahan 1:

You mean my monitor is not good enough because I have pretty good hardware if I may say so myself like GTX 1070, 16 GB RAM, AMD FX-8370.

That's pretty good, but a 1070 is not good enough to run Automata at a constant 60 FPS with no drops if you have all of the in-game options maxed out. It's not just you; the game isn't optimized particularly well.

Yeah I know about the optimaztion issues, pretty pointless to ask for a patch as there are probably 100 threads about that.

[KripTed]

The cutscenes are capped at 30fps. The rest is capped at 60. There won't be a patch because the community made a mod and now they think that it's okay that the developers don't care or produce a patch. If you want it uncapped and etc, then check out Aemony's guide.

[KripTed]

Originally posted by Minneyar:

Originally posted by Harry Callahan 1:

You mean my monitor is not good enough because I have pretty good hardware if I may say so myself like GTX 1070, 16 GB RAM, AMD FX-8370.

That's pretty good, but a 1070 is not good enough to run Automata at a constant 60 FPS with no drops if you have all of the in-game options maxed out. It's not just you; the game isn't optimized particularly well.

You're joking right? A 1070 isn't good enough? Do we need a GPU from the future? Lol. C'mon man, it's the game and nothing else. Hellblade works just fine, Far Cry Primal works just fine with a 1070.

[Aemony]

Originally posted by Minneyar:

Originally posted by Harry Callahan 1:

You mean my monitor is not good enough because I have pretty good hardware if I may say so myself like GTX 1070, 16 GB RAM, AMD FX-8370.

That's pretty good, but a 1070 is not good enough to run Automata at a constant 60 FPS with no drops if you have all of the in-game options maxed out. It's not just you; the game isn't optimized particularly well.

That's pretty much only because the High preset defaults to 8x MSAA. Disable that and the 1070 have no issues with keeping a stable 60 FPS on 1080p.