Playable with mouse and keyboard?

[DarKraft]

Hi , I really want to buy this game and play it but I want to do it with mouse and keyboard. I have a controller and I couldn't make him work properly on my laptop + I like more to play with a mouse

I should buy it considering this? I found a vid on track that say is a terrible port (the camera control especially) . Anyone tried it to play it in this way?

[DarKraft]

I bought a tracer red arrow game pad a few time ago to try "how is to play with a controller" but I couldn't make it work... (Tried in AC3 and ds1 with different 3party apps like x360 or something like that)

[lPaladinl]

Playable? Yes.

Recommended? Hell no.

[Aemony]

This is recommended for all keyboard and mouse users:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=886396996

[devSin]

A controller is recommended.

The keyboard and mouse controls are functional. The camera is a bit floaty, but it doesn't actually matter (for some reason, some people seem to always freak out if they're expected to respond to something the camera's not pointing directly at, even when auto-targeting is so generous you could practically fight blind and do just fine).

Nobody can tell you if you'd find it playable or not. You know your own preferences and limitations better than any of us. The game is designed to be played with a controller, but that's true of a lot of console action games that get ported to PC; if you have experience with those, then NieR isn't all that much different (excepting the twin-stick sections, which do take a bit of work to adapt to).

Originally posted by Aemony:

This is recommended for all keyboard and mouse users:

Double-tap works just fine once you adjust to it.

[SilentCaay]

The kb/m controls are garbage. Don't torture yourself by playing without a gamepad.

[DaPhuuLz]

i play entirely with KB&M. but i'll admit the lack of dedicate Evade button is quite a big issue.
Don't know why they made it this way.

Double tap is fine if it's and addtional option to the evade button. but while fighting it's oftenly goes off unintentionally. that's why i would prefer an Evade button.

That aside. you can still use some program to emulate the Controller for Kb&m there's a thread in this forum.

[DarKraft]

Originally posted by DaPhuuLz:

i play entirely with KB&M. but i'll admit the lack of dedicate Evade button is quite a big issue.
Don't know why they made it this way.

Double tap is fine if it's and addtional option to the evade button. but while fighting it's oftenly goes off unintentionally. that's why i would prefer an Evade button.

That aside. you can still use some program to emulate the Controller for Kb&m there's a thread in this forum.

And you don't have the option to change the buttons? Like shift+A for doge or shift+Q for heal and so on?

Or this option is only a able with another programs?

I really want to play this game but I don't want to pay 60€ on it and left it after 1-2 days

[DaPhuuLz]

No option for Evade. but you can rebind key for other things.

Again Super Weird.


even though it's not that hard to use Double-Tap. but it can be unreliable sometimes. like when i want to Counter (pressing Direction precisely when enemy attack) sometimes it just become evade because i was moving before trying to counter.

i call this a bad control design. and i'll say it again. Don't know Why thay have to do it this way just for PC version. there are so many buttons on the keyboard why not pick one for Evade? gosh dangit pumpkin pie!

another problem i found when playing with KB&M is the Target locking selection. i mean when you use lock target and want to change the target you'll have to press Arrow keys. The mouse cannot control that. But it's no problem to me since i rarely use Target lock and in Hard difficulty and above you cannot use target lock anyway.

Let me add some more information about Camera Options in the game.
you can Set your Camera control pretty extensively. I set mine to work like PC TPS game (where the Camera didn't turn when you strafe) and it works quite well.

There is Mouse Acceleration on Camera control that cannot be set in anyway; but it's not that bad so i can work with it.

The game sometime turn your camera to looks at the Point of interest against your control.

it would be nice if there's a DEMO version so you could try before you buy it. (wink wink)

[Aemony]

Originally posted by DaPhuuLz:

There is Mouse Acceleration on Camera control that cannot be set in anyway; but it's not that bad so i can work with it.

To add to this. The acceleration is negative, meaning the faster you move the mouse the less the camera moves. And it can't be turned off.

[DarKraft]

It is a demo but luck for us that is only on ps4
Yey...

[igyman]

I've posted my opinion in other similar threads, but I'll post it here again - the K&M setup works great. If the default key mappings don't suit you, simply map the keys according to your preferences and that's it.

Personally, I always prefer playing anything that is not a fighting game (i.e. Mortal Kombat, Street FIghter...) with a K&M setup, because to me only fighting games really benefit from a controller, everything else is simply better with the K&M. Ultimately it boils down to personal preference, but these are just my two cents.

[i-dot]

How to set mouse buttons to fire?

[devSin]

Originally posted by i-dot:

How to set mouse buttons to fire?

You can't change mouse buttons assignments in the game (though you can probably use some external software to bind a mouse button to Shift).

LMB is light attack. Also Enter (you can use it in fishing, and in the UI, etc.).

RMB is heavy attack. Also Esc (again, in the fishing mini-game, and probably other areas).

LMB+RMB is fire. This is very useful in hacking, but not so much in normal gameplay (since they'll also issue their normal commands, and then you're prevented from doing further light or heavy attacks while they're being held down).

[Ellen]

Fighting is easy to manage with M&K, though I find fighting easier without the lock on altogether. Dodge is for some reason set to double tapping direction keys and no way to change that (without mods), can be gotten used to fairly easily.

The twin stick shooter sections are dreadful though without a controller, the mouse behaves like a thumb joystick from an Xbox controller, as soon as it stops your aim resets to the default position. This is the only reason I keep a controller nearby and switch back to M&K as soon as I'm done with them.

[DarKraft]

and how about camera control with the mouse? aslo

Originally posted by i-dot:

How to set mouse buttons to fire?

you can't use mouse buttoms to fire or to do any tasks?

i undersand what are the problems with a keyboard in general but about mouse and camera control?