Is this odd...

[Indy11]

I set my graphics to low at 1920 x1080 and average about 37-45 fps . Then I set everything to about mid -high ( except terrain samples)with msaa x 8 and I get pretty much the same fps. I use dx 11. Shouldn't I get a boost in low settings?

Also the game won't let me play in full screen. It's always in borderless window. I try to change it to full screen but it won't work. I can't change resolution because of this.

I'm actually ok with those benchmark results but once I got to late game...it dropped down to 25 fps. I had about 1200 units and I was playing with 5 ais. Is the benchmark no longer reliable ? My heavy batches were at 36-37 fps.

I'm also noticing weird effects near units where it looks like shadows or shadows on slopes flicker. It's hard to explain. It's always happened to me. I remember reading someone say it seems likes it's raining I wonder if this is the same thing because it does look like that.

I have windows 7 64 bit
Gtx 760 2gb
16 GM ram ddr3
I5 3.4 ghz

Thanks.

[Ticktoc]

If the FPS stays the same even with large changes to settings that indicates there is a bottleneck in the system. Normally CPU or GPU.

Odd regarding the full window situation. Have you tried changing it in the game's settings.ini located in documents\My Games\ Ashes Escalation and see if it sticks?

A benchmark is just a snapshot of game play for a rough idea of performance. Late in a game with plenty of AI is going to be more demanding than the benchmark.

Do you have the latest drivers? If you and the problem persists perhaps a screenshot or video might help the devs?

[bbc6rgf 57 ytty5 y xy w5gt]

Those results seem fairly like what my friend and I used to get. It's a bit strange your FPS didn't change with the change in settings.

When I got my new screen back in December, I couldn't force the game to stay in fullscreen it kept reverting to borderless window even after ini changes in DX11, hopefully that's been fixed.

[Indy11]

I use my 4k tv as a screen. Could that be why? It's also strange that the steam fps counter is gone. It's there for all my other games. I'm wondering if borderless pushes it off the screen. I used Fraps to see that it dropped into the mid 20s at late game.

As far as a bottleneck goes..it must be my gpu. It's old... I know. I'm going to try the game settings. Is it simply changing a 0 to a 1 or false to true to force fullscreen?

Would reformatting help. I haven't done it in years

[WarWolf]

The bottleneck should be cpu, if you increase grapichal settings and framerate is not toutched (sync off) then it's a cpu bottleneck... Also i5 is not just an i5 you did not gave much info....

[Indy11]

Originally posted by Luxlupus:

The bottleneck should be cpu, if you increase grapichal settings and framerate is not toutched (sync off) then it's a cpu bottleneck... Also i5 is not just an i5 you did not gave much info....

Yeah I know. I will give more info later. I'm at work.

[Indy11]

Looked through some old posts my i5 is a

I5-3570k 3.4 ghz.

[Creature of Existense]

i reccomend to disable the msaa x 8 with the pc set up you have the msaa is rather a negative effect (unless you have a better graphic card such as gtx 1080 or 960. (see if anything changes then) (also its better to turn it off because with gtx 760 you dont need it)

There shoulde be a docments in the local files where the ashes files is so you can change the res from there.

i will dig a bit into it and see if can find it.

[Indy11]

Originally posted by Creature of Existense:

i reccomend to disable the msaa x 8 with the pc set up you have the msaa is rather a negative effect (unless you have a better graphic card such as gtx 1080 or 960. (see if anything changes then) (also its better to turn it off because with gtx 760 you dont need it)

There shoulde be a docments in the local files where the ashes files is so you can change the res from there.

i will dig a bit into it and see if can find it.

That's the strange things though I tested it with msaa off and x8 and got the same benchmark results.

Thanks for the help!!!!

[Ticktoc]

The I5-3570k is a decent CPU, it shouldn't be bottle necking you that low so it isn't that.

Originally posted by Indy11:

I use my 4k tv as a screen. Could that be why? It's also strange that the steam fps counter is gone. It's there for all my other games. I'm wondering if borderless pushes it off the screen. I used Fraps to see that it dropped into the mid 20s at late game.

As far as a bottleneck goes..it must be my gpu. It's old... I know. I'm going to try the game settings. Is it simply changing a 0 to a 1 or false to true to force fullscreen?

Steam FPS counter should work regardless of screen mode, and does for me. It could be something to do with playing at 1080p on a 4k screen as others have had other issues doing that.
Yeah, it is a 1 or 0 setting so just switch it to which ever one it isn't. I think 1 is borderless window.
Are your RAM sticks in the right place to take advantage of dual channel? Makes a big difference in this game.
I don't know what effect the screen being a TV will have. Perhaps worth a google.
I would have thought msaa x 8 would worsen performance, odd that it doesn't.

Looking at your results I think you are getting performance which is about right for your GPU? I could be wrong but I expect when you upgrade that some day then it will sort you out.
If you could run dx12 it would better indicate where the bottleneck is, but it has to be the GPU really, though the results are a little odd. When Vulcan comes out soon you can try with that perhaps as that should work fine under windows 7.

In the meantime you might as well put the settings to the higher of the two, though that might perform worse in the bigger games.

[Creature of Existense]

that reminds me do you overclock if so disable it ashes does not like overclocking (they are not compatable with each other)

as for the diggin i have done i have not found any docs that will help you change the res or change the settings without entering ashes.

(i am not an expert on this kind of thing so its better if a dev helped you on that part or another player that has that experience.)

largely possible is quiet well hidden. or it is in another local map that i dont know of.

[tomasoltis]

get to 1366x768 resolution and try again. 2gb gpu ram isnt much so I wouldnt rule that out as well.

I had some games where they refused to change settings, coh2 and dow2 did that.

[Indy11]

Originally posted by Ticktoc:

The I5-3570k is a decent CPU, it shouldn't be bottle necking you that low so it isn't that.

Originally posted by Indy11:

I use my 4k tv as a screen. Could that be why? It's also strange that the steam fps counter is gone. It's there for all my other games. I'm wondering if borderless pushes it off the screen. I used Fraps to see that it dropped into the mid 20s at late game.

As far as a bottleneck goes..it must be my gpu. It's old... I know. I'm going to try the game settings. Is it simply changing a 0 to a 1 or false to true to force fullscreen?

Steam FPS counter should work regardless of screen mode, and does for me. It could be something to do with playing at 1080p on a 4k screen as others have had other issues doing that.
Yeah, it is a 1 or 0 setting so just switch it to which ever one it isn't. I think 1 is borderless window.
Are your RAM sticks in the right place to take advantage of dual channel? Makes a big difference in this game.
I don't know what effect the screen being a TV will have. Perhaps worth a google.
I would have thought msaa x 8 would worsen performance, odd that it doesn't.

Looking at your results I think you are getting performance which is about right for your GPU? I could be wrong but I expect when you upgrade that some day then it will sort you out.
If you could run dx12 it would better indicate where the bottleneck is, but it has to be the GPU really, though the results are a little odd. When Vulcan comes out soon you can try with that perhaps as that should work fine under windows 7.

In the meantime you might as well put the settings to the higher of the two, though that might perform worse in the bigger games.

Yeah my ram is properly installed. When i first bought the game i had 8 gbs of ram. I bought another 8 for this game. Now all four of my slots are filled. I checked the motherboard manual and asked my friend who helped me build the pc. He said i did it right. I got the exact same model as the originals.

I'm happy with the 35 -45 benchmark. Its what i expected. In fact when the game starts up...it's around 50 fps. I don't normally play big games. I prefer 1 vs 1. But i must say it was pretty fun playing with 5 others.

I guess I'll continue playing with the higher settings for now. I also thought it would worsen the fps. Thats why i asked if the benchmark is accurate. I'm going to try and get a 2 vs 2 game tonight and see how it goes. Maybe that's my limit. I can't wait for Vulcan support to see if it helps. Hopefully it does!!!!

Would an SSD help?

What exactly is point lighting quality. Is it demanding? Will I notice anything graphically if I turn it off?

@creature

Thanks for checking. I don't overclocking anything. I don't even know how to.

@tomasoltis

I have been trying to change resolution. I can't because it won't let me use fullscreen. Only borderless windowed or windowed

Thanks everyone!!!

[tomasoltis]

thats strange, on my bros laptop, I forced 720p resolution through the launcher, .... but when I launch escalation it directly launches the game, but when I launch SIns of a Solar Empire:Rebellion, there is a launcher with stardock games and within it I can change escalation resolution :P so you should too, but I dont know if you can access this launcher through escalation itself.... within files or something. I didnt see it though

[Indy11]

Hey everyone..just wanted to give a small update. I played last night with 3 other ais and I had over 1000 units and it didn't dip below 35 fps. I turned off shadows and that weird effects I was talking about disappeared.( raining effect?) So at least that can be narrowed down to shadows. I guess my card has issues generating shadows in this gamee

I wrote Stardock about2 sew ded333eeee3e3r3e333wwtts4e the fullscreen issue and steam fps counter . I tried some things they suggested. They didn't ework ( erasing settings file, validate files through steam)

I figured it's my tv and it being 4k. I may try and lower my desktop resolrdution to 1600 x 900 since borderless seems to use that.

I more happy about the game running fine. The fullscreen / borderless doesn't seem to be any different... unless it is and I'm a pc noob.

Thanks everyone for the help!!!

[bbc6rgf 57 ytty5 y xy w5gt]

You could also try DX12 even though you might lose up to 5FPS, 1600x900 probably wouldn't look that good.