Spec Ops: The Line

Spec Ops: The Line

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What did you choose in the end? *SPOILERS*
At the end of "Spec Ops: The Line," you're faced with the apparant apparition of John Konrad, the man responsible for the defection of the Damned 33rd. He holds you at gunpoint, and you have the choice of either shooting him or allowing him to shoot you. My question is simple. Which option did you choose?

I allowed him to shoot me. Though macabre as hell, I feel that it was justified. By the end, you have unintentionally caused so much descruction and killed an uncountable number of people (both from the 33rd and from Dubai), that there really isn't much left to save through evacuation. Even if you (Walker) evacuated and made it out alive, you would still have a shattered psyche and likely have horrible PTSD. That was my reasoning; what was yours?
Last edited by EquestrianGeneral; Dec 25, 2012 @ 7:21pm
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ik Dec 26, 2012 @ 2:43am 
The first time I did not shoot Konrad. I wanted Walker to live. Since it is quite clearly explained that this Konrad is hallucination, the only real gun is the one in the hand of Walker. I though that if Walker shoot Konrad, he would actually shoot himself, because this Konrad is part of Walker.

The shooting himself scenario is presented in the "Indoctrination Theory" that tries to recreate a better ending of MassEffect3, than the one butchered by EA.

edit:
Since I didn't get the outcome I wanted, I tried again.
This time I survived the Konrad revelation. When the rescue forces arrived I dropped my weapon. I wanted to do that for a loooooong time.
I was glad they did came.
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Katana Dec 26, 2012 @ 11:10am 
I was a bit too stunned, and couldn't bring myself to shoot anyone else at that point. I let Konrad shoot me, and I felt I got a fitting ending.

I know one person that didn't even wait for Konrad to finish counting. He pulled his aim to the left, and voluntarily shot himself. (It's not a different ending) He felt like he had done far too much to survive this, and just wanted Walker to be at peace.
Marik Bentusi Dec 26, 2012 @ 3:28pm 
Edit: I'm not interested in playing the multiplayer, please don't add me!

I shot "Konrad", that way Walker might very well still commit suicide later on, but there's also that bit of hope he can do something for himself and others to leave this world with something of a lighter heart. Not redeemed, but knowing he used his hands for something other than killing, too.

So basically I took the "99.9% suicide probability" over the "100%" option. In retrospect the suicide option rounds off the arc much better, but all three endings have something to them. Walker silently keeping Dubai a graveyard while wearing the mantle of his split personality/hallucination/greatest hero/greatest villain also has something to it.
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steven9707 Dec 26, 2012 @ 11:54pm 
I shot Konrad. However, I think that the WHOLE thing is actually a hallucination. If you remember the helicopter scene from the start and nearing the end he says "wait didn't we already do this?" and yet it said "earlier" after doing it the first time. I think that something horrible happened to Walker and Konrad (where he says they fought together, can't remember the name) and he is suffering from PTSD and it is all a hallucination, But then reality comes in (the burning women with the baby. After attacking with white phosphorus) and he just winds up living in one huge nightmare from reality mixed with hallucinations.
After shooting Konrad I lay down my weapon and was taken away. When he is asked how he survived and the reply was "who says I did" it made me think more on the whole "its not real thing"
martini Dec 27, 2012 @ 4:45am 
I chose to shoot Konrad and then lay down my firearms.

I'm with steven^^ Walker is most definitely suffering from PTSD.... maybe even from a prior encounter. Good game though :)
ik Dec 27, 2012 @ 5:28am 
Originally posted by steven9707:
I shot Konrad. However, I think that the WHOLE thing is actually a hallucination. If you remember the helicopter scene from the start and nearing the end he says "wait didn't we already do this?" and yet it said "earlier" after doing it the first time. I think that something horrible happened to Walker and Konrad (where he says they fought together, can't remember the name) and he is suffering from PTSD and it is all a hallucination, But then reality comes in (the burning women with the baby. After attacking with white phosphorus) and he just winds up living in one huge nightmare from reality mixed with hallucinations.
After shooting Konrad I lay down my weapon and was taken away. When he is asked how he survived and the reply was "who says I did" it made me think more on the whole "its not real thing"
This post gives a link to a spoiler podcast by game authors. It does contain explanation that is quite close to what you suspect.
If you want hints, fade to blacks are used after scenes that have happened and fade to white after hallucinations.
Katana Dec 27, 2012 @ 7:29am 
It's a bit pointless to cite what the developers think - they've said everything's up for interpretation, and "word of god" doesn't actually change the value of the things that happen in the game.
Arparso Dec 29, 2012 @ 4:55pm 
I shot myself right before Konrad finished counting to five. Throughout the whole game Walker did some horrible things without realizing it and blamed a dead corpse up in some skyscraper ruin for it. I found it very fitting for Walker to "break" facing this terrible revelation... he didn't want to live anymore.

Of course this also "saves" him from ever being held responsible for any of his poor decisions... I'm still not sure what'd be the right thing to do..
Gracey Face Dec 29, 2012 @ 5:36pm 
I shot the hallucination and then went home to a well deserved promotion! (Possibly followed by a 5-13 :D)

Random CIA tosser was right. If word of this got out it would cause a huge conflict and countless more lives would have been lost. Best to wipe out anyone and everyone who couldnt be trusted to remain quiet.

Indeed it seems to be what the US government wanted. Why else would they send in a SFOD-D team? Who have incredibly close ties to the CIA and one of thier many primary roles are training and aid of insurgent forces.
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Eleazaros Dec 29, 2012 @ 9:13pm 
I did all 3 endings.

Only the "going home" one could I see you not getting blamed for everything. It's pretty easy to blame a corpse for destroying the water supply and all that but a bit tougher with a scarred vet face-to-face style. Someone would need to be blamed for destroying the cities last water and such and you can bet the CIA "was never there" if the final 'rescue' were done by the US.
Exces Jan 3, 2013 @ 3:04am 
I shot Konrad, and then I shot all the soldiers in the epilouge.
I shot Konrad at "T..". Damn evil villain! Imma shoot him! Boom! Mirror shot!

Was kinda thinking of shooting all the bad guys with guns in the end, but I dunno, I probably would if that douche didn`t take my gun.
"Aw hell, it`s all a vidiya game anyway."

Still have to play trough the uhh.. "happy? ending". I think you need to keep as many civilians alive as possible for that. Then he might come out somewhat sane.
Originally posted by ••TGC> The Gamer Complex:
I shot Konrad at "T..". Damn evil villain! Imma shoot him! Boom! Mirror shot!

Was kinda thinking of shooting all the bad guys with guns in the end, but I dunno, I probably would if that douche didn`t take my gun.

Congradulations, you completely, hopelessly missed the entire point of the game.
Fubuki Jan 3, 2013 @ 4:18pm 
Let Konrad shoot me. Interestingly, judging by the achievement stats, that's what most people did - let your character be killed in the end. I find that very intriguing.
intheradicalred Jan 3, 2013 @ 11:13pm 
Originally posted by ik:
The first time I did not shoot Konrad. I wanted Walker to live. Since it is quite clearly explained that this Konrad is hallucination, the only real gun is the one in the hand of Walker. I though that if Walker shoot Konrad, he would actually shoot himself, because this Konrad is part of Walker.

The shooting himself scenario is presented in the "Indoctrination Theory" that tries to recreate a better ending of MassEffect3, than the one butchered by EA.

edit:
Since I didn't get the outcome I wanted, I tried again.
This time I survived the Konrad revelation. When the rescue forces arrived I dropped my weapon. I wanted to do that for a loooooong time.
I was glad they did came.

I did the same thing. I thought that shooting Konrad would actually shoot yourself. I had to read up why they did it this way and see if the ending just kills you anyways. The scene where you talk to Konrad is very intense.
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